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Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by Uncle Alvah, Sep 15, 2010.

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  1. Uncle Alvah

    Uncle Alvah Member

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    Took my 1911 RIA to a local "gunsmith".
    Needed a dovetail milled in the slide for a Hy-Vis sight.
    Took over a month to get it back.


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  2. highorder

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    It took a month to get it back because he did that in 5 minutes.

    I hope he wasn't expensive.
     
  3. Uncle Alvah

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    $50, and I furnished the sight.......
     
  4. Freedom_fighter_in_IL

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    That Smith would be buying me a new slide if he tried to return that crap job to me!
     
  5. BBQLS1

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    There's nothing you can't do with a wood chisel and hammer!



    BTW, did you say a 'gunsmith' did this?
     
  6. Rail Driver

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    Personally I'd threaten a lawsuit if he doesn't replace the slide on his dime. If he's putting out hack jobs like that he certainly can't afford the judgement (which would very likely be decided in your favor). If nothing else, there's always small claims court.

    Discuss it with him like a human being first, then if he still isn't willing to refund the money and fix or replace the slide, bring up the legal ramifications involved. He destroyed your firearm slide. Last I checked, damage to property shows negligence on his part, which is legal grounds for a lawsuit unless you signed some kind of waiver or contract that limits the "gunsmith's" liability.

    If I let someone work on one of my guns it's only because I've seen their previous work. I could've milled your slide with my dremel and had it turn out better.
     
  7. rtpzwms

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    Butcher!
     
  8. Prion

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    Nice!

    Any chance his name was Bubba.
     
  9. rygould

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    OH DEAR! I sure hope the picture looks worse than it does in person. I would hope he has offered to replace the slide, or do something to make that right.

    I would be in a rage.
     
  10. Freedom_fighter_in_IL

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    Hey now!!! Some of us folks with a bit of red in our neckline might take offense to that!!! :neener:
     
  11. idoono

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    Rail has given some good advice. But if you could get away with just buying a new slide and shoving the old one up the butcher's.........the cost might be worth the satisfaction :D :D :eek:
     
  12. VinnAY

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    holy bejeezus...:eek:
     
  13. Jim K

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    It looks like no one told him about hard slides.

    "Personally I'd threaten a lawsuit..." A lawyer would want at least $2000 up front before even considering taking it on. That is why small time goofups and shysters get away with stuff and aren't worried about lawsuits. There are small claims courts in some states, but even there you pay out costs with no guarantee of winning.

    Jim
     
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    A fear of something like this happening was why I sent my slide to Springfield for sights. I think I found a 1911 pistolsmith in the area but I'm leary...very leary.

    One question though...did you say anything about the quality when you picked that up?
     
  16. olyeller

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    that man should be shot.
     
  17. EMC45

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    Did it with a file....
     
  18. Old Shooter

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    Is this the same guy who does those terrific "Duct Tape" grips?

    I don't know how somebody could hand you that gun and have the nerve to charge you $50 for that job.

    I don't know how much a new slide will cost you but that guy needs to buy it.
     
  19. Dave P

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    Did you have to supply the chinese file to this smith, or does he have his own tools??

    At least publish his name so others don't make the same mistake.
     
  20. gbw

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    Yep, looks like to me too. And he's not good with them.

    Always ask: "Have you done this before? Show me."
     
  21. Uncle Alvah

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    No, I did not actually see the work until I was home with it.Was too late to call, so I emailed him.

    The guy wants to try and "make it right, but I'm not about to let him touch the gun further. I emailed him my complaint about the shoddy dovetail, that the sight was crooked, and that the slide was marked on both sides from where it was clamped in the vise(there are two straight lines in the finish running lengthwise on the slide. There are subtle, but distinct).
    This is his reply:
    I figure I'm bagged on this one.
    - I want him to refund my money, and pay for a replacement slide, he can have this slide, but that ain't likely to be happening.
    -If I sell the gun, I'll take a beating on the sale.
    - If I keep it, I'm going to have to pay for a new slide and fitting, or leave as is and live with something that I'm completely unhappy with. Plus, if I get nothing out of the guy and replace the slide, I'll be eating the $25 sight, the $50 in labor, the price of a new slide and the cost of fitting it.
    THIS SUCKS FOLKS! :fire::fire::fire:

    I'm HIGHLY regretting not just leaving the gun as it was, but that little front sight was impossible for me to see. I really like the gun, and I figured with the HY-Vis sight, it would be the nuts. Now, I just want my 1911 restored to it's original condition.
     
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    I don't know if it is gonna be an easy fix... the front of the dovetail cut looks to be crooked. It don't even look like the front right of the sight is even making contact with the slide. Is this guy a pro smith or a side job smith? If he is pro his insurance might cover this.

    I wouldn't "settle" with this guy, he screwed up big and needs to make it right.
     
  23. GDW

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    You know a competent gunsmith may be able to fix it. You should run it by someone good. I sent a bunged up 1911 to Lou Bonitz at Grizzly Custom Guns and it came back beautiful...it's now my favorite. It wouldn't hurt to ask. Good luck with it.
     
  24. EMC45

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    I doubt that was done in a mill.....Unless the mill was out of square or his x and y were WAY off!
     
  25. BBBBill

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    There are some very good welders around who specialize in gun work. That part is critical. The dovetail can be welded and recut by someone competent.

    Couple recommendations -
    1. Pete Zafateros
    Excerpt from a post on another forum. FYI, Chuck Rogers who recommended Pete, is one of the top few smiths in the country. If he puts his stamp of approval on it, I don't question it.
    2. Jim Milks
    Jim is formerly of EGW, now out on his own. Highly recommended by many folks, pros and customers.
    http://innovativecustomguns.com/
    Innovative Custom Guns, LLC
    162 Moudy Drive
    New Enterprise, PA 16664
    email – [email protected]
    814.766.3004
     
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