Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by Uncle Alvah, Sep 15, 2010.
I think I'd just forget about this guy and look for a "REAL" competent gunsmith to fix this issue. I think the most you'd be likely to get out of him would be the $50 for his "services" and the hassle and heartburn probably wouldn't be worth it. Is the sight itself still any good?
Take him off yor christmas card list, get a pro to fix the problem or just buy a new slide set up the way you want it and move on.
Life is too short to get hung up on stupid people.
Ask him to buy the gun from you at an honest price, plus the 50 bucks you paid him. He can make the repairs and re-sell the gun and recover his loss.
My son's nickname!!! Thinking of which, he needs to go collect eggs......
I agree with Old Shooter. It's not worth the headache. A good smith can make it much better. See the picture of the Colt New Agent. I could never get used to the gutter sight so I had the channel filled in and Novaks added. As you can see, the whole gutter was filled in and you cannot even tell. Lou Bonitz did it at Grizzly Custom Guns. Any of the guys that BBBBill mentioned would do a marvelous job too. It may be a good time to do something else while you are at it!
I can second Jim Milks. I just got a 1911 back from him today that he gutted and replaced the internals in. He did a beautiful job on it, and I can't believe how much better the trigger feels.
I do appreciate the advice and comments folks, thanks!
Thats what I thought also, and have done my complaining via email so I have a record. However, truth be told, he has offered to refund the money, and to replace the slide(I ain't letting him fit though!), and he did so without any griping grousing or coercion, and for that I have to give him credit.
Not sure, I'll let "the next gunsmith" make that call.
I like that line of thought!
I suggest the following:
1. Call Ivan at Armscor out in Pahrump NV. Tell him what happened and you want his guy (I forget their top 'smith - Arnell, IIRC - but he is good - see the Rock Island forum on the m1911 forums page) to fix or replace the slide. Ask for quotes on repair and replacement. Ask for that in writing via fax or email.
2. Take that quote to the "gunsmith" and tell him the gun is going back to the factory to be made right. While you appreciate his offer, this is how you want to proceed as the "injured" party.
3. Have him pay you immediately based on the quote with the agreement to settle up (either way) when the gun is completed.
I think that once you paid for it and walked out with it that you're screwed. If he's a nice guy and wants to try and protect his reputation (if he has a decent rep) he may be willing to see the error of his ways but I wouldn't expect much if and when you take it back to him.
To avoid vise marks one should use brass or lead foil to line the jaws depending on the material being machined. From the picture the dovetail was milled and then fitted with a file. This is kosher but the proper thing to do would have been to keep the sides of the slide dovetail parallel and do the fitting on the front sight. The front sight should be slightly tapered for a snug fit that stays put. I have cut dovetails by hand, it takes a long time but the results are nothing like this.
the ultimate "F you" in this work I think is the bare metal...he didn't bother to make an attempt at refinishing!!!
Well, I have emailed Ivan with my tale of woe, now just waiting to see what he has to say.
If the Tactical slide has the correct front dovetail for a HyVis sight, I'll go with that, and let them fit the slide as well.
I'm leery of the whole "this slide can be fixed" approach, seems it would easily be as much or more to pay for repairing the damage as simply replacing the slide. But I'll go with whatever Ivan's gunsmiths recommend.
The tac slide is $135, the GI $115, plus shipping, fitting charges. My FFL dealer can mail the gun and save me a few bucks there at least.
I appreciate the advice and the "Expressions of Sympathy" also!
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