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great LEO encounter!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ID-shooting, Sep 9, 2013.

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  1. ID-shooting

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    We all hear horrid and upsetting stories of encountering LEO's, I want to share one that went rather well.

    Yesterday morning, I and two friends load my Jeep and head to the hills. We are looking for multiple critters (Wolf, Mt Lion, Badger, Fox, Grouse, and others) so we are armed appropriately. In my topless Wrangler are three 1911's (on our hips as we are headed into black bear country) an AR carbine, an AK74, a 12ga, and two 20ga shotguns. Also are our packs, food, water, and survival gear. This is a two-door year 2000 Wrangler so you get a good idea how stuffed it was.

    Anyway, got a little too excited for the first hunting trip of the year and was rolling down the freeway extension that cuts through town, 60mph zone, about 45 min before sunrise and a car pulls in behind me with flashing lights, I look down, 72mph, CRAP!

    I pull over, tell everyone to keep hands in plain view. Nice gentleman from the Idaho State Police walks up and says "good morning." Mt immediate reply is "Sir, we are on our way hunting and there are guns everywhere." He does a quick scan with his flashlight, open top Jeep, and says, "Why, yes there are. May I see your license, registration, insurance." I tell him I will have to reach for the glove box and my back pocket and replied that was fine. He proceeds to BS with my buddies while I begin to grab up my documents. I find my driver's license and registration, but amongst a stack of expired insurance cards, I cannot find the current one. We dig through everything in the glove box, nothing. poop. Seeing dollar signs racking up.

    He sees this and says just show me your newest one. I hand those and my CWP over he looks at them and hands them back. Says, just a warning this time, keep it slow and good luck. He gets in his car and drives off.

    I am kinda dumfounded, should have been speeding, no insurance (which I had, just not with me), two no seat belts and he could have made things rough by wanting to check each gun.

    I must say, we were all pleasantly surprised. I wish I had gotten his name or something to make a comment to his bosses about how professional, polite, and respectful he was. Of course we are just a polite to him as well.

    Anyway, enough of my "Good rant." Oh, we did not bring anything back home but had an excellent day on the mountain. That is why they call it "hunting" and not "shooting." :)
     
  2. Henryfan1

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    Nice!

    Its always great to hear news like this.
     
  3. Al Thompson

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    Around here, the CWP is seen by a nice percentage of the police as "the certified good folks" card.

    Now, be nice to yourself and fix those issues the ISP identified. ;)
     
  4. Dr_B

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    ISP work within zones, so that guy will typically be in that general area. So you could call them and give a description and date and time, and they could match it up with the officer. Plus, he definitely ran your plate and your stop is in the call log. Put all that together and you can determine who he was and send a letter to his supervisor.
     
  5. Dave P.

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    And if you do send a note you might want to leave out all the stuff
    he could have wrote you up for.
    The command officer might just decide he really wasn't doing
    his job.
    Dave
     
  6. herrwalther

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    Good to see positive LEO stories like this one. Now to semi-hijack it and tell about my first LEO interaction as a CCW holder just a few nights ago.

    Wife, I and son in car seat were driving to the local Wal-Mart to pickup a few things we needed late at night, about 2AM. There was a checkpoint run by our town police, AL state police, county police, and the nearest city police. In all about 8 cruisers. Town police comes up to the driver window, wife was driving and nervous as can be. She is carrying as well as I was, and an extra firearm in the glove box.

    The officer asked for license, registration and insurance. My wife informs him that we are both carrying. "I appreciate you letting me know that ma'am." I inform the officer that I have to reach near my firearm and the one in the glove box for those documents. "Not a problem, go ahead." At this point he actually walks to the back of the car to make sure my plates are current. By then I had the documents in hand when he came back. He verified the owner info on all, made some chit chat about veteran tag. He thanked my wife again for letting him know. AL is a non inform state. And off we went.
     
  7. Officers'Wife

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    Keep in mind they are as human as you are. For every Harliss and Brisard there are a couple of thousand that see you are just getting a bit carried away and need to be reminded of the safety of others. You ran into one of the 1999.
     
  8. itsa pain

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    he might have scanned your plates which would tell him you have or do not have insurance. here most depts. have cars with the plate scanners on the sides of the trunk. being state police he probably had them
     
  9. 303tom

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    There are some good ones out there that know their job, he was just trying to slow you alls dumb arrsses down to keep from getting killed, not to harass ya...................
     
  10. PJSprog

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    Had a similar encounter a few weeks ago ... while shooting on our own property. A grumpy neighbor called in a complaint that bullets were whizzing over his head. Two county Deputies and an Illinois State Trooper showed up, walked back to where we were shooting on our little range, saw that the complaint was not only unfounded, but technically impossible, then spent the better part of the next half hour talking about guns and shooting and how we could improve our backstop berm. For a situation where they walked up on four heavily armed individuals, it was really quite relaxed. We went out of our way to help put them at ease from the moment we saw them, and they clearly appreciated that.

    I've honestly never had a "bad" LEO encounter involving weapons. Seems to me that most of the people who do generally invite it on themselves.
     
  11. Trunk Monkey

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    Gotta ask, he aske specifically for you insurance card why hand him your permit?
     
  12. itsa pain

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    I think maybe some people think their permit is like a PBA card or showing they are brothers in arms. you tube has many videos showing not so good encounters while carrying
     
  13. ID-shooting

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    @Herrwalther "...made some chit chat about veteran tag..." You know, Veteran plates on my Jeep as well.

    In the great state of Idaho, it is courtesy to the cop to had it over with your license when carrying. Since they are kept back to back in the same slot, it is kinda difficult to hand one over without the other.
     
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    Perhaps because of this?


    OP did not state the firearms were openly carried (clearly visible) or concealed.
     
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    both.
     
  16. 788Ham

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    In the state of Colo. , its mandatory to provide the CCW permit with your drivers license, if you're stopped and carrying. Less tension for both.
     
  17. Trunk Monkey

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    Yeah, no it isn't.

     
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    Nothing in this make informing the officer a legal requirement

    I can definitely see where if the car was full of guns like that the first words out of my mouth would have been words to the effect that hey I’m going hunting and there’s a bunch of guns in here because there’s no doubt the cop is going to see them and of course I’d hand over my permit if requested.

    In this case however the cop knows you’re armed to the teeth and really hasn’t made an issue of it. So, I don’t see the point unless (and I don’t know how to say this nicely) you’re looking for brownie points. Ultimately I suppose it’s your choice but I wouldn’t have done it.
     
  19. Potatohead

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    An officer once told me "being respectful goes a long way". You done good. Most of these guys will be respectful to you if you're respectful to them. I've noticed it sometimes takes a minute or two though. They seem to be ready for confrontation until they're sure you're not being a dumba$$...
     
  20. Tinpig

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    Another good cop and guns story, because sometimes we hear only the other kind:

    Like an idiot, I ran out of gas on the side of a country road at dusk on the way home from the range in the winter. I had cased rifles in plain sight in the front of my truck, and was carrying a 1911 concealed on my hip (I have an LTC.) A cop (turned out to be the shift supervisor) stopped to check. This is in Massachusetts so I was a little apprehensive even though I was completely legal as far as licensing, storage, and carry.

    I told him I was coming from the range, and was carrying. He saw the guns, and made no comment. He politely suggested that if I would lock up the 1911
    in the truck, he would take me in the back of his cruiser to a gas station. That seemed like a reasonable request under the circumstances.

    He took me to the gas station, waited while I bought gas, then drove me back to the truck and held a flashlight while I refueled. During the ride we had a great conversation about our respective 1903s and 1911s, and he never asked to see any ID, although I don't doubt he had run my plates.

    He was a great guy and exemplified what I was always told about cops when I was growing up...that they serve and protect. Probably didn't hurt that I'm an old white guy with an NRA and a US Army sticker on my truck window.
    The next day I wrote a glowing letter to his chief...I hope the love trickled downhill. :D

    Tinpig
     
  21. JERRY

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    contrary to most youtube videos, the average street cop is pro ccw. the traffic violations aside, he may have been looking for other things than what you violated..... DIT and the like...
     
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    That's a great idea. I imagine it's mighty rare for a citizen to go out of his way to praise an LEO - most people wouldn't mind putting in the time if they wanted one reprimanded, though.

    It'd be a mighty nice thing to do, to let this guy's supervisor know you appreciate him.
     
  23. ID-shooting

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    @Trunk Monkey...I know how to get along here in Idaho. Cop will ask for it eventually, they do every time. Beat em to the punch makes them happier.

    To the others, I did call ISP and talked to shift supervisor today. Explained time of day, location, gave my ID info to look up the stop. Left kudos for officer in question. He said he knew him and would make sure it got into his file.
     
  24. Akita1

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    Echo that in FL (at least in my experience...and kudos to the OP for his handling of the situation as well as the Idaho SP of course). I've gotten stopped by State Troopers a couple of times on the way to hunt (the beginning of hunting season gets me a bit enthusiastic, which somehow transfers to the accelerator - go figure).

    Both times the trooper was happy I had a CWL and that I had informed them of the equipment up front. They told me that as long I have my CWL and I am carrying or have firearms in the car, I don't even have to tell them unless they ask. OK sir, but I still prefer the abundance of caution.
     
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    You mean you guys didn't get harrassed, thrown down to the ground and handcuffed, and all your guns confiscated???? What a nice cop! lol.

    Good to hear another nice LEO story.
     
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