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Greatest 9mm Ever

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by JaxNovice, May 20, 2008.

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  1. JaxNovice

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    With too much time on my hands I was wondering about what would be the criteria to establish what is greatest 9mm ever produced. Here is my criteria and I would like to hear responses from the peanut gallery.

    1) Length of service and production

    2) Military and LEA adoption

    3) Commercial units sold

    Based on those three, what are the contenders?
     
  2. jgo296

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    well browning high power
    cz75
    glock 17
    beratta 92
    sig sauer
    luger
     
  3. steveracer

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  4. OFT

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    High Power. What else?
     
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  6. Thernlund

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    I think for most people (non-gunnies), the Beretta 92 is instantly what comes to mind when thinking "9mm". Credit Hollywood for that.

    Although, in that same vein, the Glock 17 is catching up fast (or already has maybe?).

    I'm a history buff as well as a gunnie. So I say the Walther P38 followed closely by the Luger.


    -T.
     
  7. ColinthePilot

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    My favorite 9mm is definitely the Hi-Power.
     
  8. freakshow10mm

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    The greatest 9mm of all time is the HK P7 series.
     
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    I dont think that the G17 will ever be as recognizable/popular as the 92.


    Im not talking smack on the Glock, thats just what I think.
     
  10. rcmodel

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    The P7 doesn't even begin to meet any of the three criteria set forth in the first post.

    BTW:
    Lets not forget the S&W 39/59 series guns.
    39 = First DA 9mm made in the U.S.
    39 = First commercial DA 9mm.
    39 = First alloy frame commercial DA 9mm.
    39 = First 9mm adopted by a U.S. police agency.
    59 = Basis of the "Hush Puppy" used in Vietnam.
    59 = Started the 9mm high-cap DA "Wonder-Gun" war that is still going strong.
    39/59 = About a gazillion sold to police, military, and civilians between 1953 & 2007? when they were finally discontinued.

    rcmodel
     
  11. jocko

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    If I can recall

    ur right rc, and if my mind servesme well I think the state of Illinois were the first to issue the model 39 Smith..


    Just pretty hard to not go with the G17, IMO
     
  12. freakshow10mm

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    I don't care, the P7 rocks!

    It does fit in all three categories just not as big of numbers as others.
     
  13. rcmodel

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    Well, using that set of rules, "just not as big of numbers", we have to include the Star's & Astra's too! :D

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    Lugers, P38's and BHP's I feel are the guns that "made" the caliber. Of those, the Browning HiPower would be my choice as a timeless classic in the same vein as a 1911 is to .45 ACP.
     
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    In terms of production, wouldn't the BHP and CZ75 eclipse all other contenders?

    Add longevity, and the BHP has no equal (1935).
     
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    If the U.S. military had the Glock 17 for over 15-20 years, it'd be the most widely known 9mm. Even more than today, with many police agencies carrying Glocks.

    I had someone tell me (when my nickname was Glock-29-10mm on another forum) that "Glock only comes in 9mm." I laughed... and hard! But it showed even the most clueless of facts have at least heard of Glocks. :D

    For military service: Glock > Beretta... by far. :D
     
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    Long lived major military service 9mm, massively produced.

    Browning HP 1935-Present
    Luger 1900-1945
    Sig 210 1937-1965
    Walther P.38 1939-1945, 1957-1993
    Swiss Sig P220 (9mm) 1974-Present
    Sig 226 1984-Present
    Beretta 92FS 1984-Present
     
  18. JaxNovice

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    Does anyone know commercial sales numbers? I assumed that the G17 has outsold the Beretta commercially.
     
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    I disagree as to your criteria for what is the "greatest". After all, the "best" might have just been made a year ago or not adopted by the military or LE due to cost factors.

    Still, while not my personal favorite I too have to say that based on your criteria the Browning High Power has to be number one.

    Manufactured for a long time and often copied. Lots of military and LE (albeit Euro) use.
     
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    The Walther P38 and its variants -- the P1, P4, and P5 -- would have to be a top consideration. Tens upon tens of thousands of these models were produced during and after the war and remain in use to this day.
     
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    Using your criteria, BHP, Beretta 92 and Glock 17. However, that leaves out the Sig 210, which not many of us have handled, but is a very, very, very nice gun, accurate to long range, reliable, and with a great trigger, and was a military / police issue.
     
  22. JaxNovice

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    I guess I was trying to limit the scope of the question to objective criteria. Everyone has their favorite, but I wanted to remove that from the equation.
     
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    Browning Hi-Power. Second to none.
     
  25. gcrookston

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    As I listed above, by military service, the Browning HP would, by your definition, be king. # produced, the P210 I listed would be smallest, with only a few hundred thousand. The rest on my list have/are produced in the millions.
     
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