Grip or Sight Change?

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Took my newly acquired Sig P6 to the range today. Tried 3 brands of ammo, WWB, Blazer (Brass) and Reminton...all worked flawlessly.
My question? Abot 80% of the bullet strikes on target were LEFT of center.:confused:
Every round was a hit on a silhoutte target (10 Yards) but preponderance of bullet strikes were left.
I use a two handed grip and am not limp wristed.
Before I drift the rear sight, could a faulty grip cause the problem??

P.R.
 
If the sights are aligned when the shot breaks, the bullet will hit where the sights are pointing. It doesn't matter how you hold it.
 
Trigger Control

My experience is that pulling left indicates a trigger control issue. Typically left means that you're either jerking a little, and/or putting too much finger on the trigger.

Too much finger makes it difficult to pull straight back. Try concentrating on pulling straight - and putting the trigger on the pad of the index finger or just barely into the first joint.

Hope this is helpful. Let me know.

See you on the firing line.

Jacob
 
Hope this helps.
I've asked this before and will ask again.

That is a diagnostic shooting chart for one handed shooting. Shooting using a two handed grip, as the OP said he is using, changes the force vector dynamics on the frame and trigger and how they influence the bullet strike.

Would using this chart not likely be more misleading, than helpful to a less experienced shooter?
 
People yanking low-left tend to do it with one or two hands on the gun.

Most people don't know how to properly hold the gun with one hand, much less two, so I think the chart is at least somewhat helpful.

Bench the gun and shoot at a straight vertical line (magic marker and a ruler) 5 yds away and shoot single action slowly. Grip tighter with the support hand than the gun hand. Ideally, put a dummy round somewhere in the mag to check for flinch.

If the group (if you call it a "pattern" practice more!) is left of the line and you didn't flinch on the dummy, then the sights might need to be adjusted.

If centered on the line, then it's you.

If I think the sights are off, I shoot pencil thin lines up close to check it. Once verified, I shoot weeds in 1/2. I find that more fun and helpful than shooting at 25 yds to check my windage adjustment.
 
My experience is that pulling left indicates a trigger control issue. Typically left means that you're either jerking a little, and/or putting too much finger on the trigger.

Too much finger makes it difficult to pull straight back. Try concentrating on pulling straight - and putting the trigger on the pad of the index finger or just barely into the first joint.

I agree completely. To test this, dry fire it several times directly at a bullseye with different areas of your finger in the center of the trigger. The feedback is immediate. After the dry shot, you'll immediately be able to see if the muzzle is moving right, left or not moving. Adjust your finger placement and even your grip if necessary to find a comfortable position/combination where the muzzle doesn't move. If you can't find a comfortable and fairly natural position without the muzzle moving, it may be time to consider drifting the sights.
 
Many people can dryfire correctly.

Fewer can fire a gun with live ammo correctly.

Many that ask this type of question do not (yet) fire a gun with live ammo correctly.
 
I calibrate my sights to the way I shoot the gun.
But then again, I'm not all that good and shoot for enjoyment.
 
and am not limp wrested.
I know it is hard to admit, but you wouldn't know it if you were.

I have seen 280 pound weight lifters limp wrest a pistol and swear there was no way possible they were doing it.

However, shooting left is not manifested in limp wresting.

I would suspect you are jerking the trigger or flinching.

Have a buddy load an occasional dummy round or snap cap in your magazines without you knowing in what order they are in.

When one snaps instead of bangs, you will immediately see if you are jerking or flinching.

rc
 
Get a buddy or two to shoot it. If they hit left as well, then drift the sights.

Most flinching from a right handed shooter will be left AND low. If you're just a only a little left and level, it probably the sights.
 
I've never heard the term "limp wresting."

How is that different from "limp wristing?"
 
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