gun at the ready while home

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  1. RCB

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    I am almost always fiddling with a gun so usually have one nearby. My HD shotgun is usually within arms reach, but I live out in the country, so no hyper sensitive folks that would have a fit if they happened to see me with one.
     
  2. bigpower491
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    I always have one on me, except at the shop, where I guess it's frowned upon. No worries, in a strong box in the truck outside that door, I have to drive to the city for work, no way I'm not carrying concealed.
    Around the farm, it could be a number of things.....mostly that little GP100 44 special on my hip. I live rural, but there have been a few incidents over the yrs with dope heads out here. Should someone have the miracle of getting past our shepherd,(they'd have better odds buying a lottery ticket) big lead is guaranteed on the way.....
     
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    Another opportunity to use this line:

    Remember just because you are or are not paranoid, does not mean they are not out to get you :)

    I am not really paranoid, and if I were the voices would tell me what to do :)
     
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  4. Mikhail Weiss

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    I keep firearms close and at the ready while at home. Depending on what I’m doing, they may be on me or within arm’s reach.

    Here’s why: I was one of those “it never happens here, or to me,” residents of a nice neighborhood to whom it did, indeed, happen.
     
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  5. Armored farmer

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    Lol.
    In the words of Hank Jr.....that don't deserve an answer hoss.
    Lol
     
  6. Kleanbore

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    That'll do it!
     
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  7. marsofold

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    I keep a 1911A1 in the nightstand next to the bed. And a loaded double barrelled shotgun next to the main door of the house.
     
  8. Scrod314

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    Shield .40 on my nightstand.
     
  9. MrChicken

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    Ha! "I'm not as paranoid as the guys that are always following me." :)
     
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  10. Anchorite

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    This is me - except I have a lab and a Winchester 1300 stowed behind the master bedroom door, easily within reach.
     
  11. vintovka

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    I used to keep a shotgun handy but out of sight and with a empty chamber for safety and that Pump "warning sound" . Now it and 2 others are fully loaded along with shorter more multiple, penetrative items. Such is my faith in current times and specifically government. Worse yet is the thought that was one of the intended goals.
     
  12. Kleanbore

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    Let me make a suggestion. Don't worry about the type o firearm. Assuming it is adequate in terms of power and capacity, , the only characteristics that will matter are its portability and size, and whether it will create sound pressure that you want to experience indoors. You may want to also consider the possibility of over penetration.

    First, think of everything you can think of that can happen, and how. Consider where might you be, where others in your family might be, and from where bad people might enter your house, at any time around the clock. Do not limit yourself to obvious scenarios, or to something you have imagined that would be consistent with preconceived notions about how you may want to arm yourself.

    Then, start thinking about where you want your firearm kept, so you can respond timely and effectively to any eventuality.

    Don't decide yet. Consider everything that could go wrong--everything that could prevent you from accessing your firearm, everything that could result in danger to someone else, everything that could make it easier for the bad guys.....

    Decide accordingly.

    Good luck!
     
  13. vintovka

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    Prolly a repeat but 5-6 decades ago my uncle owned a liquor store in Highland Park CA (LA). One day he got clunked on head and robbed. Then on he kept a 12 gauge above the inside door in his office. The idea was hands up and grab it. I understand it was well used and always found "justifiable".
     
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  14. JCooperfan1911

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    I keep my 870 Police Magnum 12 gauge shotgun close by and ready to grab when at home. Mine looks like this:

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    I use #1 buckshot and my barrel has had Vang Comp work done. It will put all 16 .30 caliber pellets in a fist sized grouping from across my house. It is essentially like getting shot with almost an entire magazine from a Vz-61 machine pistol with one pull of the trigger, and I can empty the tube into a B27 target in under 3 seconds. Surefire forend for target ID, extra shell carrier on the receiver, basic bead for fast target acquisition, Urbino stock that helps me absorb recoil and handle the gun, sling for retention, and extended +2 magazine tube.
     
  15. gyp_c2

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    Wife and I came home from a night out for an anniversary. House was upside down to include mattresses and box springs, all drawers emptied on beds, everything mobile for someone on foot with 2 hands gone if it was worth anything. My range bag, vcr, videocam, her jewelry that wasn't secured and stuff like that.
    I had left my Detonics under my pillow and when they flipped the bed it was concealed up against the wall.
    Her PPK was gone with magazines.
    I never left home without it again. Never allow anything that can be used against you to be unsecured.
    Made us believers and we started thinking about moving outta' Dallas that year.
    Highest murder rate ever that year, over 400 I think.
    So...you'd think, well that'll never happen again.
    30 days later, wife comes home about 19:00, front door is kicked off the frame. Hears the back door close as she's nearing the porch.
    She exits with the baby and goes to her parents, calls me at work.
    Same exact thing. We had just replaced all the electronics but guns and ammo were secured, jewelry in SD box.
    Moved to Colorado Springs 4 months later.
    Not only can it happen, it can happen more than once. Don't leave stuff unsecured that you can't afford to lose, or used against you.
    :thumbup:;)
     
  16. Electrod47

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    I live out in the country, and I do like this guy does also.
     
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  17. vintovka

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    One way to avoid the use of deadly force is to take advantage of all the user friendly electronic security stuff that's available cheap today. Won't stop determined sub-human(s) but make the semi-sentient ones think. We live rurally but have good net access. We were fortunate that the former owner had some serious security stuff built in. There's Proximity alarms all around the property . Plus there's net linked wireless cameras inside and out that sound alerts and send pics/videos to our phone if we are way. This is in addition to wireless alarms on every door or window. The latter send alarms as well. There's a couple simple signs saying "Warning, 24 hr electronic internet surveillance ,you are being recorded". Each has a picture of a camera on it. Fun to watch uninvited folks read sign and rapidly back up off property. The deer, turkeys and squirrels however remain unimpressed and love to set stuff off.
     
  18. Kleanbore

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    Security systems , hardening, lights, and so on are important and prudent. One would also be wise to keep the doors locked.

    This thread is about the final frontier--the tools for risk mitigation when all else has failed.

    But owning a firearm and having it in the house may not help at all. The question is one of where is it when one needs it.
     
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  19. vintovka

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    That is too true.

    Keeping the firearm(s) in easy reach is going to be made even more difficult as in a growing number of states it is now illegal to even have an "unsecured" firearm in your home. Anti 2A types will use any excuse to use this new "tool" against gun owners. Most likely it may be invoked by an accident or accidental discharge. Imagine otherwise legally defending your home and then get held for using an "unsecured" firearm. Nothing is farfetched in court.
     
  20. skfullen

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    ALL the time.
     
  21. Kleanbore

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    Yes.

    Anoher good reason to keep it on one's person.
     
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  22. vintovka

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    Yes and that leads to the extended carrying of something small and comfortable. If its too big or clunky it probably will get taken off if concealed. Despite some surmountable downsides the currently discontinued RM380 (with the finger rest mag) is about the best for me so far. Am Now old enough to get away with mostly wearing Carhartt overalls. Its fits so nicely in the r front or back pocket in its "sticky" holster i don't notice it.

    Alternative two is a quick access safe in every room which seems to appeal to the left.
     
  23. Zendude

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    With the availability of so many lightweight compact and micro guns, I have no real excuse not to have a gun on me at home. The only reason I often don’t have one in my pocket or on my belt at home is that I get mentally lazy and have not made it a daily habit. Making it into a habit should not be difficult, but for whatever reason I find making it into a habit is more difficult than it should be. It’s not a comfort issue, as I barely know it’s there when I have it on.
     
  24. American Finn

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    I like to take Karl Malden's advice; I take my "American Express" with me everywhere and never leave home without it. Now, that being said, it sits in my speed safe about three feet from my bed when I am at home. I also have the S&W Model 64 sitting in a speed safe as well; the wife and I have quick access to a firearm in seconds. As many of you have said; this world is going crazy and it CAN happen anywhere. Better to be prepared and not need it than need it and not have it. Many of you have multiple fire extinguishers in your homes, right? You don't have them because you're expecting a fire but want to be prepared if one breaks out.

    On a light hearted note; was at my brothers for Father's Day; I always wear a t-shirt under my cover garment when carrying. My mother says to me "Why do you wear a t-shirt, especially in this heat?". My response was "Because I am carrying American Express". :)
     
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  25. JohnKSa

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    Even a full-sized polymer pistol in a good quality owb on a good quality belt is comfortable enough to forget about. Make it a small light gun instead and it's almost like it's not even there.
     
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