Gun Bashing (My gun's better than yours!)

[george29]

Internet makes it difficult to read what the poster had in mind, sometimes what sounds like a bashing is something other than. I also think the internet is very raw and people post without thinking. Sometimes I will regret posts that I post, it just goes with the territory, take what you can learn and throw out the rest.
All my guns are in one way or another used as SD so reliability is the key factor for me. I won't trust KT, Taurus, Rossi, Kahr for SD to name a few. Some from personal experience, others from the inordinate amount of bashing these specific tools get. I have learned that a factory 1911 is reliable only with FMJ and that's what my 1911 was loaded with when I owned a 1911. I guess what I am saying is that there is a place for bashing sometimes.

 

[Lowlander91]

Ya the gun bashing gets annoying. Im into shotguns so either in real life or on a forum It is always mossy 500/590 v remington 870. And when it comes down to it they are both great guns It is usually personal prefrence. sorry if this has been already made didnt read whole post.

 

[JHK94]

I always think it seems silly, but then again, I'd shoot any gun and probably like it a little. I wouldn't really want one, but shooting my grandpas Lorcin was pretty fun in its own way.

 

[t165]

My younger cousin used to carry a hi-point .380 for SD. I made fun of his gun and he was a little miffed. He now carries a Glock 23...which some may think is not an improvement. Another friend of mine bought his wife a Phoenix 22 to keep in her desk. She works in a camper trailer alone in a rural area for a contractor. I am slowly talking him into Tokarev...he only wants to spend about $200.00.

I recently became more involved into airgunning since I moved to a subdivision. Talk about product snobs and gun bashing...these guys are far worse than the AR V AK and just basic Glock haters crowd! They bash one type of airgun for "too" much recoil or plastic trigger. Or their gun is a monster magnum because it generates 28 foot pounds of energy compared to the next guys airgun which only produces 24 foot pounds of energy. I'm trying to keep my mouth shut but some of the arguments on those forums are really funny!

 

[AKElroy]

don't forget that SIGs rust, 1911's jam, USP's break firing pins, Delta Elites crack their frames, and Berettas break their locking blocks right before putting the back half of the slide through your bridgework.

You forgot that Glocks explode, and Taurus' suck because, well, because, their Cheap! EVERYONE knows only Les Bear and Ed Brown are capable of creating weapons that won't dissolve.

 

[Mike OTDP]

I like to watch the gun bashing. It's like the endless Ford vs Chevy debate.

Of course, I drive a BMW. And shoot a Hammerli. :-D

 

[ljnowell]

I would never bash someone elses gun. I mean, when you own the best you have no reason to talk ill of lesser guns.

 

[Greybeard7]

The posts I've given the most credence to on the XD forum are from those that admit that they just like the feel of the gun more. The SA XD line are very popular with some, while many are firmly convinced that the Glocks are the only way to go.

It's kind of like shoes to me. What fits best and gives you the best mileage is probably the best for you, regardless of what the "experts" may say.

Come on, ANY gun, even a .22LR, is better than nothing.

Some have more ft lbs of energy, or more mass, or more penetration than others, some are better for concealed carry, and some are just more comfortable or accurate for the individual user.

If someone really thinks one is better, I pay more attention to those who state why that is their preference, and specify the characteristics that have lead them to that conclusion. I usually give them more credence if they acknowledge that this is their personal preference and others may have different experiences or preferences.

GB7

 

[Phydeaux642]

I truly feel that this discussion is moot. Everyone knows that vintage Smith & Wesson wheelguns are better than everything else.

 

[Nanook]

Me, I just love guns. All kinds of guns. Even the ugly ones.

I have sold several guns over the years due to being uncomfortable with them. In the spirit of the thread, I won't name those guns here.

Guns are great fun, and are excellent examples of engineering. If I had the time and the money, I'd have a gun room, not just a safe.

 

[runrabbitrun]

It's all about testosterone... boys

 

[Greybeard7]

Nanook:

Thank you. You have demonstrated my point exactly.

I had a Ruger P85 9mm that I put one box of ammunition through, and I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Why? I didn't like it, and it didn't fit me.

Was it a "bad" gun? Not at all. It just didn't suit me. It could very well be the "perfect sidearm" for someone else.

There are sidearms that suit me better, and I am naturally more inclined to advocate their purchase and use. Personally, I like the Springfield Armory XD45s. Are they perfect? Heck no. I would like to see more versions offered with the ambidextrous thumb safety. They aren't there yet, and only customer demand will change it.

GB7

 

[danbrew]

Ed Brown Kobra Carry

You know that one really sucks, right?

snicker.

 

[runrabbitrun]

My boat is better than your boat BS.

Get over it dudes.

I can kill any of you with a 22, a 12 ga. or an AR.

Happy now?

Oh, I can also kill you with a steak knife.
(And YOU can do the same to ME as posted above)

SEE MY point >>> yet?

 

[welldoya]

I'm glad you brought this up. I've thought about it myself. Gunowners tend to recommend and harp on what they happen to own. It makes them feel better and validates their purchase.
Hmmm. That makes me wonder ( I feel another thread coming on that I've never seen before) are there any guns that EVERYBODY likes, that nobody has anything bad to say about ?

 

[sm]

Tamara also has a excellent post : Silly Little Tribes. posted either here on THR or over on TFL

 

[t165]

Whatcha talking about sm? TFL...is there another gun forum I don't know about?

 

[JHK94]

The firing line.

 

[sm]

Re: TFL and Silly Little Tribes

Yes boys and girls, before THR, the earth was flat, and we all walked uphill both ways to skool, barefoot in the snow in the middle of July in the hot humid south...

There was TFL.

<enter earth shattering sounds here>

I, as resident rebel , troublemaker, pain in the backside, THR Plankowner ( whom still has not received his green decoder ring btw) and other names of which Art's Grammaw does not allow ...

<Rod Sirling voice>

Have taken the time to provide you with link and a taste of :

Have a seat, set down your drink, and behold the Queen of Snark -the one and only Tamara.

Well, she is going to kick my butt someday anyway if we meet, why not?

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86705&highlight=Tribes

Silly Little Tribes

Why can some people not objectively discuss their preferences in guns, cars, PC's, whatever, without using the words "sucks", "rules", "junk", "fool", "garbage", "ultimate", and such?

Just wondering...

I like my Z3 2.8. It is a neat roadster. Does this mean that it "rules"? That Miatas, SLK's, S2000's, TT Convertibles, and all other roadsters "suck"?

No, it just means I like my car.

It amazes me how many people own a handgun, let's call it a Glocksigberetta. Their sigline says it RULES! All the Deltaswatseals use it! You can run it over with an Abrams and submerge it in magma and its' match-grade trigger will still let it shoot 1" groups while it's full of gravel, because it was perfectly designed by Saint Samuel Gaston Browning-Mauser in nineteen-ought-one.

When you ask these folks if they've shot a Walther1911Browning & Koch, they tell you "Yeah, they suck! I owned one for a week ten years ago and it jammed on 2 of the only 50 rounds I shot through it, so I sold it!".

*i wanted the green decoder ring, remember*

 

[t165]

Cool...thanks guys! Honestly...I did not know about TFL! I only started visiting these forums a little over a year ago.

 

[.38 Special]

I appreciate folks thoughtfully pointing out negatives with particular firearms, especially if those negatives were discovered through extensive experience.

That is quite different from the rantings of fanboys who bash a particular gun because all the guys in the videogame chatroom say it, like, totally sucks, dude.

 

[earlthegoat2]

I have shot and used in life and death situations every gun that has ever existed ever. I can objectively say which ones suck and which ones have no faults whatsoever. None of em.

For the hard heads: Everything except the last sentence is false.

 

[Lonestar49]

I'm not sure why.. lol

...

Fairly simple: One type gun owner, "I'm IN with the in-crowd type" bashes all other makes and models to justify his one and only choice.. Insecure in the short/long haul about any choices, needs the crowd "feel good" backing.

Read enough bashing threads about this model or that, and forms an opinion based on others views OR has had a problem with a particular type/make gun, and they just can't get enough of "that gun sucks because" post in to justify their actions and knowledge for that person in the mirror.

Had and have one type gun that does work 100%, therefore why take a chance on any other make or model, but fails to appreciate Variety is the spice of life.. for many.

Just an old rut type: Chevy vs Ford


All guns are as good as the total sum of their parts, the gunny who put it together, and the owners input, (including ammo choices) good or bad.


Ls

 

[doc2rn]

I feel quite too often think it is supposed to be a shooter right out of the box; guys that is what your local gunsmith is for! I have had crowns redone, sights redone, etc.. even on some new weapon systems.
But I will never buy a new Taurus ever again
Ya need an expert like old fuff to fix them!

 

[Coopersrcool]

Yes it is simple...and it isn't testosterone! Its the human race! It never ends...all races, religions and philosophies. My God is stronger than yours....Women are no different ...biggest, clearist diamond. Most expensive designer! Men comes down to even wanting the biggest pen..s. Sad but true...but it will never change. Thats why I always laugh when I see the bumper sticker that says ...visualize World peace...LOL....never happen!

I know getting pretty deep for a gun forum...LOL