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Gun business exodus begins in Colorado

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Midwest, May 6, 2013.

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  1. Midwest

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    Gun business exodus begins in Colorado

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/03/gun-business-exodus-begins-in-colorado/


    The "Exodus" to get out of Colorado for firearms related companies is on. HiViz Shooting Systems (manufacturer of gun parts) leaves Colorado for nearby Laramie Wyoming because Colorado passed controversial gun control laws recently. Laramie is only an hour away from the Colorado location.

    The decision to relocate the company was difficult, and choosing the proper location was essential to our continued growth within the industry,” said president and CEO Phillip Howe in a press release. “We look forward to settling into our new home in the firearm friendly state of Wyoming.”

    The article mentions another company Magpul which makes magazines in Colorado might move to Texas. The article also said that Magpul is expected to announce their new location after the NRA convention this weekend.

    I think this is a great message to send, that companies are willing to leave the state (in this economy) over anti-gun legislation. Thus the state and the politicians will have to answer to the people over loss of jobs due to the state's laws.
     
  2. leprechaun50

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    Let us hope that this trend continues and more companies (Colt, Beretta and others) follow suite.
     
  3. Reloadron
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    While this move makes a political statement....

    That is about all it really does. Colorado will not even notice any loss in tax revenue. When you want to hurt someone you hit them in the wallet or pocketbook. I doubt Ft. Collins CO. will notice them missing or Colorado in general.

    When companies that employ thousands pack up and move then there is an impact. However, very large companies seldom move to make a political statement. Many are publicly traded with a fiduciary responsibility to the share holders. Moving a large manufacturing base isn't an easy task nor is it inexpensive. You are not going to see for example Colt Manufacturing pack up their toys and move anytime soon unless a very big carrot is offered by another state as a tax abatement.

    So while I applaud small companies that move for their political statements I do not see any firearms related large manufacturing bases moving anytime soon. They are in business to make money and not make political statements.

    Just My Take
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  4. Lex Luthier

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    Booyah for them.
     
  5. Midwest

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    With the recall of politicians in Colorado. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=714950

    The Outdoor Channel pulls out of Colorado
    http://mynortheastoutdoors.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/216/The_Outdoor_Channel_Halts_all_

    Then Magpul is leaving
    http://www.kunc.org/post/new-laws-send-colorado-gun-businesses-packing

    Hunters are boycotting Colorado
    http://kunc.org/post/hunters-target-colorado-boycott-over-gun-control

    While the 14 people from HiViz Shooting Systems are not going to make an economic impact. The combination of the other industries, the hunters, the pro-gun communities and the political fallout will have a big impact when all is said and done.

    Colorado's loss could be Wyoming's gain

    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/soci...d-colorado-gun-manufacturers-magpul-and-hiviz
     
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    Right on. My guess is that the libs attempting to make CO their personal utopia will just see it as an opportunity to rid the state of more opposition to their misguided philosophy.
     
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    And that is what it is all about, the strength in numbers. Individually each has little impact but combined it will hurt them in the pocket book and that is where it will hurt and draw attention. Neighboring Wyoming is no slouch either opening their arms and offering better tax incentives that Colorado. Wyoming is gun friendly making for a nice home to all things gun related.

    As for Colorado? I guess we wait and see how things play out.

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  8. Bubbles

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    Hey, it's a start.

    What I find amusing is that even my little home-based business is now receiving solicitations from commercial realtors in states like TX pointing out that the state is very pro-RKBA and encouraging us to move in.
     
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    You might consider visiting Texas then for a vacation. Lines do seem to be being drawn.
     
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    In a way, I like it but in another way, it's very dangerous if we have a lot of our industry moving to certain states, same thing when like minded political populations move. I don't blame them for seeking refuge, but it increases the polarity between states. I know, the gun companies didn't start it, but that's the end effect.
     
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    Maybe i am in the wrong here, but i find it almost appalling that members of the gun community are championing the the failure of a State of the union economically just because of its enforcement of policy it chooses to follow. I understand the disagreement of the policy, but to damn them for it is un-American. I also may have just mis-interpreted what some members have posted

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    IMHO it is also UN American to torpedo the 2nd AMENDMENT
     
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    Kudos 4 them. Good start. I hope there are more to follow.
     
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    Last time I checked, privately owned companies could move anywhere they wanted. That is capitalism, and American. They don't even need a reason to move if their ownership desires.

    I applaud these companies.
     
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    the communists running Colorado now do not care about business leaving or staying, look at California. they would celebrate businesses leaving by allowing 3 million illegals to come into the state
     
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    I don't think anybody here would champion the economic collapse of a State just to support our cause. Sometimes though it is helpful to remind people to wake up and smell the political fragrances being wafted down their noses by those in power.
     
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    One great thing about this country. If the people of CO don't end up liking the response to their legislation, they can vote to reverse it just as easily as they voted to enact it. I doubt they want to, but if they decide to I'm sure the firearms community would be happy rejoin them.
     
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    I don't think they care.
     
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    I applaud businesses who vote with their dollars and feet in opposition to unconstitutional laws. These businesses who are moving are doing so often at no trivial expense to themselves.

    On issue I see with the exodus of businesses and other persons (like conservatives fleeing liberal hell holes) is the only people remaining are the liberal loonies. Then you end up with Senators for life like Fineswine, Boxer and Chuckie.
     
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    Unfortunately I agree. When you lose tax base revenue you just increase taxes on the remainder that pay them.

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    I sent a message to a Colorado resort that I had no interest in vacationing in a state that would violate my 2nd Amendment rights, and when they decided they had lost enough money they could get their state government to repeal those laws.
     
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    Let's not forget that we, the gun owners, should also do our part. We should patronize these companies who choose to take a stand for the 2A. In similar fashion, I would also suggest that we withdraw our patronage to those companies who choose to remain in anti-gun states. Let's remember that part of every dollar of business that we give to these companies located in anti-gun states are being used to promote anti-gun agendas.
     
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    I agree with the 'don't care' view. It is as if a town makes tax money on stripper bars that cause trouble. They ban them. They see losing that business as confirming their moral imperatives. Only voting out folks will make a difference.

    However, I do agree with the sentiment to move and boycott. That is because the company would be paying tax money (to which you contributed to) which would enforce their discriminative and tyrannical laws.

    It is no different from other ideological similar move. If you agree with the issue, then you cannot support funding attacks on freedoms.
     
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    Vote in 2014.

    The Antis need some consequences for their actions.
     
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    Gun control politicians don't just want to drive gun companies out of state, they want to drive them right out of business. Lost tax revenues mean nothing to them.

    To see where Colorado might be 10 or 15 years down the line. Look at the gun policy of the Democratic candidate for Governor of New Jersey.

    http://libcloud.s3.amazonaws.com/266/23/8/427/Buono_Gun_Violence_Prevention_Plan.pdf


    She wants to prohibit government investment in all gun industry companies that are not suppliers of weapons to law enforcement or the military.
     
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