Gun buying panic = psuedo gun ban?
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solareclipse
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Considering there is a 1-2 year or longer wait for certain AR parts and in certain calibers, yes....
thank the guy who bought 50 rifles and 500000 rounds for each. no joke... i know of somebody who picked up 12 at once. he was in front of me. recession eh
thank the guy who bought 50 rifles and 500000 rounds for each. no joke... i know of somebody who picked up 12 at once. he was in front of me. recession eh
rscalzo
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Housing bubble....gun bubble..... In time it will follow every other bubble history has witnessed. I'm already seeing signs of some having to sell off parts of their collection to make ends meet. Manufacturers are just riding the wave knowing it won't last. No manufacturer is ramping up production, nor are they expanding the facilities. They know it will not last forever and they have no intention of getting caught with excessive production.
As far as store having day to day items in stock, no idea where you live but there isn't any problem getting food and other daily needs. Store are fully stocked. The next year or so will be tough. those that were stupid and spent beyond their means will have to reduce their standards.
as far as the mortgage, the data cited was based on being as little as one month behind. All of a sudden the press no one trusts is taken at face value. They made money pushing out bad news.
As far as store having day to day items in stock, no idea where you live but there isn't any problem getting food and other daily needs. Store are fully stocked. The next year or so will be tough. those that were stupid and spent beyond their means will have to reduce their standards.
as far as the mortgage, the data cited was based on being as little as one month behind. All of a sudden the press no one trusts is taken at face value. They made money pushing out bad news.
chuckusaret
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I have given up on the local gun shops to buy any type of weapon or ammo. The wholesale price of these items has risen 10-15% while the gun stores, in my area, has raised their prices 25-30%. One item in particular , a Mossberg 500 shotgun, has gone from $265 in Nov of 08 to $425 at one local shop. The prices on handguns is even worse. The average price for a Springfield XD is just under $600. I'll buy mine at the gun shows and off the web and still save money.
Zach S
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Olys arent too bad, but I still feel sorry for the guy that paid $800 for a Century...
Sixtigers
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Many people are losing their homes. This is a tragedy--for whatever reason. Mistakes were made on both sides of the credit table.
Personal opinion? Guns and ammo aren't bought, for the most part, by people who are in the foreclosure category. I base this on nothing other than my personal opinion. Please don't quote me.
Seems to me that people who, generally, enjoy firearms and firearms sports, and who keep a good amount of ammunition on hand (we all know people who "have a gun", and either haven't shot it in decades or have absolutely no ammo for it) are more generally 'prepared' for hard times.
Times are hard, and we have to limit our spending just like everybody else. We don't go out like we used to, but we still manage to put away a couple of boxes of ammunition every month. Doesn't seem like a lot, but we've been doing this for the last three years. When I go into my ammo storage, and see the amount we've managed to put away, I am thoroughly gratified.
I don't see this as an intended ban by any part of the administration. I didn't vote for the man, but he's my president now, and so far I think he's tackling the right problems, while ignoring the solely political issues.
Doesn't stop me from purchasing the weapons that he "may get around to" in the future, now. I have my priorities. Might be different for my children, as I can't seem to get my 17 year old son interested in shooting at all (how WEIRD is that?!), but for the wife and I, we choose to interpret the 2nd Amendment as giving the citizens of this country the right to refuse tyranny. Such beliefs are better served by actually being able to refuse tyranny, as opposed to lip service. What good are rifles without bullets? Why have a weapon at all (for the purpose of resisting tyranny) if you aren't going to keep bullets for it?
I think most of us get that. For a lot of people, guns are more than a hobby. It's the ultimate expression of American freedom, and a symbol of resistance to those that would take away our liberty. For people like that, a little economic downturn is not going to keep us from believing. And sometimes, you have to believe with your pocketbook--that's just the way it is.
Personal opinion? Guns and ammo aren't bought, for the most part, by people who are in the foreclosure category. I base this on nothing other than my personal opinion. Please don't quote me.
Seems to me that people who, generally, enjoy firearms and firearms sports, and who keep a good amount of ammunition on hand (we all know people who "have a gun", and either haven't shot it in decades or have absolutely no ammo for it) are more generally 'prepared' for hard times.
Times are hard, and we have to limit our spending just like everybody else. We don't go out like we used to, but we still manage to put away a couple of boxes of ammunition every month. Doesn't seem like a lot, but we've been doing this for the last three years. When I go into my ammo storage, and see the amount we've managed to put away, I am thoroughly gratified.
I don't see this as an intended ban by any part of the administration. I didn't vote for the man, but he's my president now, and so far I think he's tackling the right problems, while ignoring the solely political issues.
Doesn't stop me from purchasing the weapons that he "may get around to" in the future, now. I have my priorities. Might be different for my children, as I can't seem to get my 17 year old son interested in shooting at all (how WEIRD is that?!), but for the wife and I, we choose to interpret the 2nd Amendment as giving the citizens of this country the right to refuse tyranny. Such beliefs are better served by actually being able to refuse tyranny, as opposed to lip service. What good are rifles without bullets? Why have a weapon at all (for the purpose of resisting tyranny) if you aren't going to keep bullets for it?
I think most of us get that. For a lot of people, guns are more than a hobby. It's the ultimate expression of American freedom, and a symbol of resistance to those that would take away our liberty. For people like that, a little economic downturn is not going to keep us from believing. And sometimes, you have to believe with your pocketbook--that's just the way it is.
MatthewVanitas
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Oh great, let's tell all the Obama voters that they're not welcome in the gun community. Then they'll really support us when push comes to shove.
From the purely 2A angle, the ideal isn't that people don't vote Democrat, the goal is that shooters be as represented amongst Democrats as they are amongst Republicans. At that point firearms would no longer be a political issue, and many of us wouldn't have to deal with the "well, I hate everything about Politican Y, except he is pretty good on guns."
Maybe the guy with the Obama sticker likes guns, but had perfectly good reasons for really, really, really not liking McCain? You can't expect the entire country to have the same ranking of political priorities as you.
First, thanks for getting mad about MY freedom of speech
Second, I am not expecting every body to vote like I do or even the people who patronize the same stores I go to, to vote the same as I do. I Was just pointing out that this person voted for the new President, and now is at a store which is 3 hours from the state they were from, and sells large numbers of firearms, ammunition, and even reloading equipment. I know they might have been passing through, on business, a school field trip.... WHATEVER, the point is they contributed to the current state of our country and now they are part of the panic buying crowd. An just so you know I went there to use my rewards points before they expired, that means I have had them for at least a year, sorry I guess I cant be part of the panic buying crowd. Unless not wanting to let my $15.00 to go waste counts as panic buying.
Third, didn’t the NRA sponsor at least two different ads right before the election about Senator Obama and his voting record on guns? But that’s right lets go after the one post on a pro-gun forum not a big organization such as the NRA right? Do you get mad about the "I'm in the NRA and I vote" bumper stickers too? or just if there is/was a McCain Palin sticker next to it?
BHP FAN
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''Trip after trip into gun shops see ammo rise and fall like the tide...''
Really?I have yet to see any price drop out here on the Left Coast.
Really?I have yet to see any price drop out here on the Left Coast.
Groundhog92614
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Let's remember that politicians are supposed to represent their constituants, and the same politician representing a city, a state and or a county should and usually does change his policies to reflect the people who will vote for (or against) him.
For example, the politician representing an urban city population will change his position when he seeks election from a state with both rural and urban attitudes, if he wants to be reelected.
Since most people can agree that Obama is a clever politician, it stands to reason that he will seek reelection by pandering to the majority of the people voting.
Also, if we as voters choose to vote for candidates solely on one issue, then we shouldn't be surprised when the candidate doesn't represent our interests on many other issues.
For example, the politician representing an urban city population will change his position when he seeks election from a state with both rural and urban attitudes, if he wants to be reelected.
Since most people can agree that Obama is a clever politician, it stands to reason that he will seek reelection by pandering to the majority of the people voting.
Also, if we as voters choose to vote for candidates solely on one issue, then we shouldn't be surprised when the candidate doesn't represent our interests on many other issues.
I've been reading some stories on here about some gun stores. Makes me feel almost blessed for the two stores that I do business with. One still has the XD for below $500 (new) and I just bought a new CZ Rami at last year's price. I just bought several boxes of self-defense 10mm ammo for $14.69-16.89 a box. These were bought by the dealers at older prices and have been sitting on the shelves. They did not try to raise the prices, but sold them at prices based upon what they paid. In other words, these two places are not gouging customers.
And, in response to an earlier comment by someone: Maybe I'm alone, but I hardly consider Saigas to be "silly." And, one of my dealers just got a new one in and he priced it at $379. It didn't last long.
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