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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by GaryinVirginia, Feb 11, 2022.

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  1. GaryinVirginia

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  2. jmorris

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    Could be a number of things but my money is on a double charge or squib then another round/bore obstruction.
     
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  3. FL-NC

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    What caliber is that? Send it back to Glock. See what they have to say about it, and let us know here.
     
  4. edwardware

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    Given the generally downward orientation of the damage, it's probable the feeding relief on the chamber was involved. An out of battery ignition, or over pressure event rupturing out the incompletely supported head, occur to me.

    I'll wager the hand that was holding that grip frame has a few scorch marks.
     
  5. Spats McGee

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    Ouch. Hope you're OK, @GaryinVirginia
     
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  7. 243winxb

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    Glad to see all you fingers are there. This is why i don't like plastic guns.
     
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  8. KeithK

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    I would say you were very lucky, is the plan to send it to Glock or what. Very happy it was not worse.
    Keith
     
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    I'm sorry to hear that and I'm glad you are okay. But we need more than a couple of photos to be able to make an educated guess at what happened. Factory ammo or reloads would be my first question.
     
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  10. jmorris

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    Even firearms that don’t have plastic frames get blown up if you don’t feed them good ammunition or fire them with a bore obstruction.

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    I experienced bullet drive in create over pressure conditions in a RIA GI

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    gas flowed down the magazine, cracked the grips, blew off the base plate and deep seated a couple of bullets, only one is shown

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    The problem was, the magazine was held too low, due to a factory sent replacement magazine release. The first release held the magazine so high, the slide would knock it out of the pistol. Second magazine release allowed bullets to hit the feed ramp and be seated during feed. I could feel a distinct bump, bump as rounds chambered, as rounds hit the feed ramp and then chambered.

    My RIA is made of 4140 steel, and all it took was a field strip, wiping powder residue down, and I was able to chamber rounds and start shooting again. Unfortunately those tupperware pistols are not as durable and so, that shooter's pistol is toast.

    There is another cause, one that is deliberately suppressed in the shooting community, call it Agnotology, but as gunpowder ages and deteriorates, the burn rate becomes unstable and pressures rise.

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    heat accelerates the aging of gunpowder. Before cost effective gas chromatography, gunpowder was put in a test tube, placed in an 165 F oven and if the sample fumed within 30 days, the military removed all lots of that ammunition from inventory. As can be seen in this table, ammunition was heated at 150 F, and the stuff with the gunpowder in it, the pressures increased.

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    More modern chart

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    This came from a 1970 presentation I found on the web.


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    gunpowder does not have to be that old to have deteriorated

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    Optimism bias combined with denial have erased this knowledge from the shooting community. Shooters believe they, and their ammunition are immortal and a strong, vocal group, shout down any evidence contrary.

    Not all ammunition has to be old and deteriorated to blow up a pistol. Sometimes, new AMERC ammunition will do the job.

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  12. Lennyjoe

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    Sure looks like a Glock to me…
     
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    Double charge.
     
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    You are blaming Taurus here and there instead of calling their customer service and send your G3c back on warranty.

    No, it's not a Taurus, it's clearly a Glock.
    So, you are blaming Taurus for an accidend occurred on a Glock. Brillant.

    I can't blame Glock for an accidend caused by an, at least, double charged round.
     
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  15. Rule3

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    Well even if we had more information from the OP, these threads just end up as guessing and speculation.

    Heck, at least give us a few stale bread crumbs to nibble on!
     
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    Exactly!
    State gun blew up.
    Post photo.
    Discuss.


    Stay safe..
     
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    Well, let's discuss all the things that can go wrong and eliminate most of them
    1. wrong ammunition
    2. bad load due to overcharge, wrong powder, deteriorated powder, detonation
    3. compressed load due to bullet setback
    4. obstructed bore due to squib or other blockage
    5. out of battery ignition due to mechanical issue/disconnector
    6. chamber obstruction
    7. striker issue? I am not a Glock guy.
    Clearly more info and photos are needed in order to methodically tick off these possibilities.

    Please resist temptation to air your grievances with a manufacturer, material or technique until we know a lot more about what happened. Gary, we are sorry to hear of your injury and kaboom, and we hope you will help us to learn from your experience. Please also disregard the wild speculation or victim blame that sometimes happens with threads of this type.
     
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    99.9% it’s a Glock “fortay,” maybe a G27. o_O

    The .40-KABOOM! is the most kaboomy caliber ever chambered in a Glock. :what: ... :eek:
     
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  19. FAS1

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    The gun appears to have a grip length of a G26/G27 with a slide length of a G19/G23? It also has a rail on it which none of the subcompact Glocks do and look at the length of the frame in front of the trigger guard.

    I wonder how modified this Glock was and if that could have anything to do with the explosion?
     
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  20. Carl N. Brown

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    Looks like the extractor is missing, likely blown out.

    Also it looks like the barrel and slide locked together recoiled full length.

    Normally the barrel unlocks and drops down after a short length and the slide recoils full length.
     
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    Looks like a stock G36 to me.
     
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  22. FAS1

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    I think you're right. The magazine does look wider than I thought though.
     
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    See the ? You do know what a question is? :fire:
     
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  25. GaryinVirginia

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    It's a Glock29 10mm. I'm sending it and ammo to Glock and trying to get in touch with Black Hills ammo.
     
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