Gun/Hunting Store doesn't allow guns.

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Went to a new hunting/gun store.

Right on the door is a sign that states "All guns must be checked at counter"

Add that to the mediocre selection, high prices, and a snooty gun salesman and I definitely won't be going back.

A perfect example of how a company can profit from 2a without having to support it.
 
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You consider this unusual? In my experience, hunting stores generally have such a rule, primarily meant to apply to guns being brought in for some kind of service such as having a scope mounted. Makes sense to me and doesn't indicate a lack of support for 2A.

Now, if it is in fact a no CCW rule, that's different.
 
Are you sure he was talking about concealed guns? And if so did you ask why? I worked at a gun store for years and we liked guns checked prior to customers pulling them out of cases or being brought in for service. A lot of people have no clue as to gun handling and you would not believe how many loaded guns I handled that I was told were unloaded. I would get clarification from the owner and if the guy at the counter was snooty I would have a chat with the owner. I hate to see a gun store close.
 
You consider this unusual? In my experience, hunting stores generally have such a rule, primarily meant to apply to guns being brought in for some kind of service such as having a scope mounted. Makes sense to me and doesn't indicate a lack of support for 2A.

Now, if it is in fact a no CCW rule, that's different.
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Agreed, most do have this policy in place. If they did not allow CCW yes, that is a different issue all together. I remember seeing a guy once walk in to talk about a trade-in for his current CCW pistol, and when he went to the sales assoc. he pulled it out and started unloading it on the counter! > Bad judgment on his part, he also seemed offended when the sales assoc. jumped his you know what as he was doing it. Safety always needs to be a priority for gun stores and firing ranges. I have just made it a habit now that if I am walking into a store with a firearm in "Plain sight" to leave the chamber open so they can clearly see I share a similar interest in safety.
 
MY LGS has no such policy.

The only sign is a posting of the 4 rules.

Owner claims there have been no AD/ND in 28 years.
 
Cabelas has a similar rule but it says right on the sign that concealed permit holders (Where applicable) do not need to check their guns at the counter.

We live in a world of idiots, and we need to check and verify that guns being brought into a store are indeed loaded and safe.
 
Most local shops here in Texas have similar signs. They know, as do all Texas CHL holders, that such signs have no actual force of law - the signs are solely intended to keep (presumptively untutored) non-CHL-types from waltzing around with unholstered or otherwise unsecured guns.

It seems a preudent means of separating the schooled from the less schooled, nor perjoratively or for ill intent but simply to ensure that those with potentially limited firearms handling knowledge are identified up front.
 
We have had an incredible number of people who swore their guns were "unloaded" get a nasty surprise when we opened the bolt or racked the slide, and a live round hit the floor.

One black powder rifle even came in loaded. :banghead:
 
Most stores have such policies. I've seen quite a few folks walk into gun or pawnshops wanting to sell or trade in a gun that was loaded. All of the ones I know of don't mind a concealed weapon, as long as it remains concealed. Bring it out and it will be checked by employees. Sounds like a good policy to me.
 
A firearms store about 10 minutes away has pat down searches at the door. I don't go there much anymore. Most stores have a no firearms policy even if they sell them. I think they just don't want customers whipping out their firearms to say "Look what I have!"

The other 2 stores I go to encourage CCW and have signs to promote it. The only weapons they check are ones they are taking in to make sure they are unloaded.
 
Checked?
Checked in?
Checked for empty chambers?
Checked to ensure provided safeties are utilized?
Checked for legality?
Checked for Czech manufacture?
What checked?
On the surface, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. I know that I and the boys personally put hands on EVERYTHING that came into the shop in a customers hands.
Holsters, bags, socks, boxes etc... was another issue but you could say we "checked" open hand carried firearms every time.

Gosh, I wonder if we offended anyone? Wait, considering the number of rounds we found in chambers - I don't really care.
 
Most gun shops that take trades or do repairs have the same language posted - it is to make sure you do not bring in a lo0aded weapon that will be taken out of a case (or holster) and cause injury. It does not apply to legally carried concealed weapons
 
My assumption is to have to "check in" a gun at the counter if I am taking a say a long gun into a large gunshop. Seems like you are potentially avoiding an issue when you leave. But it is situational and if you are talking to a sales person about a certain gun and it is outside, you run outside and bring it in... seems to me they are sort of expecting it at that point. But if it is Cabelas or a similar large store where firearms are a small part of what they sell, ask if checking it in is needed when you come in.
 
ASK.

As was mentioned, that is often so that people aren't walking around the store with a gun in their hands. Licensed and holstered carry is often exempt
 
And many gun owners wonder why we are always behind the eight ball.This type is behavior by a "gun place" is both baffling and sad.
 
Every store or range I've been to has had a clearer sign, which says all firearms must be cased/holstered and should only be handled under supervision of the staff.

I wouldn't even object to the staff saying we aren't allowed to draw in case of a robbery, simply because most stores require their employees to open carry and I know I wouldn't be the fastest on the draw.
 
I have seen those no firearm signs (gun with a slash going through it) at gun stores in Ohio, but not in Kentucky.
 
Cabela's is like that also but that is just for rifles coming in or something, if it was for ccw they would lose tons of business.
 
And many gun owners wonder why we are always behind the eight ball.This type is behavior by a "gun place" is both baffling and sad.
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No, it isn't - it is part of a CYA plan. Just because owns a gun, doesn't mean he or she are competent, safe, or understand anything about basic gun safety. Bringing in a gnu in a case or pouch, and it might be loaded, is asking for trouble. The business is being smart making sure someone isn't walking around like that
 
It does not apply to legally carried concealed weapons
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Licensed and holstered carry is often exempt
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Often yes. But when the "No Guns allowed" there is often some sign that says "Concealed Carry weapons included/prohibited." Like what showed at my not anymore usual gun store.

simply because most stores require their employees to open carry
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For a chuckle, take a close look at the weapons the employees "openly carry." 3/5 of the gun stores I frequent open carry...empty weapons. Revolvers make it easy to tell, Semi-autos use loaded chamber indicators or count notches on magazines.

No, it isn't - it is part of a CYA plan.
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Exactly. There is a gun store owned in Georgia run by a colleague of mine and I asked him for this thread "You run a gun store, why are you so adamant about having unloaded weapons?" He said there there have been instances of people walking into his pawn shop to sell a weapon that was still loaded. Its understandable for a widow or something who takes in some old firearms she has never been trained with to get rid of. But an experienced owner? That is just asking for Murphy and Darwin to ruin your day.
 
The sign that you mentioned deals with bringing in a gun to be worked on like being fitted with a scope, its not talking about CCW. The local Cabelas has a check-in for that as you walk in but its only for guns that they will be working on not CCW as there are no legal "no carry signs" posted on the doors.
 
I went to visit a new(to me) gunstore with an indoor range about an hour east of where I live. I was told it had a large inventory of my favorite types of firearms. Posted on both sides of the entrance were signs in big letters stating,

NO LOADED FIREARMS IN THE STORE
FIREARMS BROUGHT INTO THE STORE MUST BE UNLOADED AND CASED
THIS INCLUDES LEGAL CCW HOLDERS

It is any business's right to forbid ccw carry in their establishment and I will not violate that rule. I got back in my truck and went about my business because they obviously don't need or want it.
 
My LGS has a signed posted saying something like "We support your right to carry your firearm, but please keep it holstered". Any gun brought in for sale or service does need to be checked at the counter. Just like the guns purchased need to be checked at the counter.

Is this one of those cases where someone is reading into it poorly, and got offended rather than ask for clarification?
 
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