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Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by Texasgrillchef, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. Texasgrillchef

    Texasgrillchef Member

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    While by no means am I even suggesting to anyone that we should not continue to be vigilant in fighting additional unnecessary And 2A violating gun laws, I would like to say there is some good news and something for us to be happy about.

    The gun law trend since 1986 has been in fact in our favor. Far more is legal now to do and have and use then it was back in 1986.

    Take a look at this...
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    This map and its animation clearly show the trend has been in our favor!
    Now we need to keep going and keep pushing harder so we can make ever state a constitutional Carry state!

    Kentucky should also be green because they also went constitutional Carry on July 1 of this year.

    I would like to point out that Oklahoma should be green and is a constitutional Carry state effective 11/1/2019

    Montana also should be green because it has a limited constitutional Carry as well.
     
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    Here is a map for constitutional permitless open carry.
    On 11/1/2019, Oklahoma will go yellow with full permitless Carry.
    Raising the total number of permitless Open Carry states to 31.

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  3. Texas10mm

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    Hawaii really should be considered a No Issue state since they haven't issued a permit in a couple of years.
     
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    I've seen the maps before. However, there is probably a map out there of current expansion of state laws banning guns and magazines. That's the big threat out there today. Expansion of rights in gun friendly states is great. The risk of bans in previously friendly or neutral states is the problem.
     
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    I looked for one on assault rifle bans and on magazine capacity bans. Found one on mag cap bans though...

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    I have also found this one on suppressors ... but no map for SBR, SBS, AOW or MG

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    Well with a suit pending in California on the mag cap ban, I think many states are holding off on that, some cities that aren’t limited by state preemptive laws are going for it though sadly.

    It’s a slow process sadly, but we are making headway. I am hoping next year we can add a few more states to constitutional Carry. Sadly Texas won’t be next year, because Texas lawmakers meet only every other year, so it won’t be till September 1 of 2021 at the earliest before Texas will be constitutional Carry. One good thing, is no anti gun laws will be enabled before then either!
     
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    VT has a mag limit now. I worry about new ones being passed after every incident.
     
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    It's my understanding--which could be seriously flawed--that it's closer to decades, not years.
     
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    Here’s an interesting thought.... so many here while they support Open Carry, don’t open Carry or don’t recommend it.
    Yet if you look at the laws.
    14 states allow permitless open carry but not permitless conceal carry, which IMHO shows that people would much rather see you with a gun then conceal your gun. I believe in those states, more people would apt to just carry openly and not get a permit.

    If Texas didn’t require a permit to do both, and allowed permitless open carry, I would have to admit I probably would NOT have obtained my LTC and just open carried to save the BS and hassle of getting my permit!
     
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    That opinion is not supportable without data so lets not make unsupported assertions.
     
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    You don’t consider the data that 14 states support permitless open carry over permitless concealed carry to be data in support of that assumption?

    I will admit that while that’s not the majority of the states, so I will give you that it’s probably not the majority of people in the USA. But what about the people of those 14 states? Seems to me by the laws they would prefer you open carry because that’s easier to do, then to do do all that you have to do to get a permit and carry concealed?
     
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    Laws are made by politicians and the back and forth trading that goes on between them reflects more the deals being made than the will of the people. The old adage about making sausage and politics is very apt.
     
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    Open carry demonstrations in the early 2000s are what prompted Ohio politicians to finally pass a concealed carry law in Ohio.
     
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    interesting jow they chose to pass conceal carry and not ban open carry which is what they didnt like.
     
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    That was because the Ohio Supreme Court had recently (at that time) decided that open carry was legal and protected by the Ohio constitution.
     
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    The Constitution was written by lawmakers as well. Interesting to note, That they wrote it for OC to be legal but not CC.
    Most gun owners prefer CC, yet legally speaking constitutional carry for OC is more legal than CC.
     
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    States moving towards more permissive carry laws is a great metric for this 'freedom index' sort of topic.
    As a trend, I think it stands out more than the other things because it puts guns literally into the public setting which is critical to implementing the right as it was intended. It also illustrates our decade's old point that having more people armed hasn't caused a surge in violence as predicted by the naysayers. The rest of the stuff will fall into place eventually. I'm confident we're on the right side of things in this fight.
     
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    If I understand correctly they have never issued a concealed handgun permit.
     
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    Where did you get your law degree ?
     
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