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Gun misfires, kills man

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Oregon Street, Jul 31, 2008.

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  1. Oregon Street

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    Discharged while still in the holster ???

    http://www.parkrecord.com/county/ci_10034905

    Gun misfires, kills man
    Weapon was still in its holster
    Patrick Parkinson, Of the Record staff
    Article Launched: 07/29/2008 05:34:41 PM MDT


    A man was shot to death by his own gun in the Uinta Mountains when the pistol accidentally discharged, the authorities said.
    The body of Salt Lake County resident Jon Klopfenstein, 55, was found in the Sulphur area of the forest July 12 at 7:29 p.m. He died from a single gunshot wound, investigators said.

    "Initially, we thought it was a suicide," said Josh Wall, a spokesman for the Summit County Sheriff's Office. "The officers on scene, and the medical examiner from our office determined that this was actually an accidental discharge."

    The 9 mm pistol involved in the shooting is a "cheap, junk gun" made in Israel, Wall explained.

    The weapon discharged while strapped in its holster, he said.

    "The gun gets hit on the hammer and discharges the round in the chamber," Wall said. "The bullet hit the guy in the belly from below."

    The weapon might have struck the ground or exterior of the vehicle, Wall said.

    "He fell outside the car, so we're thinking he is probably getting in or out of the car when this happens," he added. "The empty round was still in the chamber He could have been putting it in the car and it fell to the ground."

    Nobody saw the shooting occur.

    "Somebody just came across him laying there dead," Wall said, adding that officers do not suspect foul play. "This appears to be his gun and he was there alone, as far as we are aware."
     
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    Weird. I wonder what the firearm was--an old Deagle maybe? Those are heavy, but should have standard features against discharge when dropped.
     
  4. kingpin008

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    This sounds hinky to me. Possibly a bit of bad reporting coupled with less-than-stellar description of events by Mr. wall, but either way it doesn't sound right.
     
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    Kingpin: You should know, you never, ever let the truth get in the way of telling a good story. :D
     
  6. General Geoff

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    Desert Eagles have never been chambered for 9mm, they've always been .357/.44/.50AE
     
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    If it misfired how did he get shot? To me a misfire is where the gun does not fire when supposed to.:confused:
     
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    Is there such a thing?
     
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    No drop safety and a crappy holster is a bad combination.
     
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    No, carrying a loaded pistol cocked with the safety off is a bad combination.

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    That doesn't make any sense at all, unless a retaining strap kept the slide from cycling.
     
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    Something doesn't make sense.
     
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    I'm not aware of any junk handguns from Israel.

    An Isreali 9mm... I'm thinking a Jericho.
    Not particularly expensive, but not junk either.
     
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    I have a Jericho. Great gun.

    Something is just off with this story. Clever murder maybe? :uhoh:


    -T.
     
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    I've camped in the Sulphur area a lot. This is sad. Know your weapon, carry it safely, and don't buy junk.
     
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    this makes me wonder who on this forum does not keep a round chambered?
     
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    Desert Eagle Baby Eagles where/are made in 9mm
     
  18. General Geoff

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    You mean the Jericho 941?
     
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    Originally. Now the Baby Eagle.


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    Camslam - I'm not quite sure how to take that. Care to clarify for me?
     
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    The Jericho/Baby Eagle are considered to be excellent reliable strong guns. They are basically CZ75s in different clothing and with refinements.


    NOT cheap or junky at all.

    Well maybe rather inexpensive compared to a Sig or an HK, but 400-500 is still not a cheap junky pistol by any means.
     
  22. General Geoff

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    Well, it is still manufactured by IMI, so I guess it fits the description in the article.
     
  23. Oregon Street

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    I should add the Park Record often displays poor journalism and reporting in their paper. I don't know about this writer, but overall the paper's record of fact checking and fairness is weak.
     
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    NO WAY.

    Cheap Junk Israeli Guns? That is very poor journalism.

    Jericho/Baby Eagle has a firing pin safety just like a new CZ75. A 1911 would AD before a Jericho.
     
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    I think by "junk gun" they mean a damaged one, maybe one that had some rust spots or corrosion. Some people out there just don't get it, you don't buy a $50 junker and expect it to work, if you do you're inviting trouble.

    It had to have been fairly damaged if the weapon didn't cycle when the round was fired, unless of course it was a revolver. I wonder what it was, why can't they ever give more info as to what it is. :cuss:
     
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