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Gun Oil Question

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Dynasty, Mar 22, 2008.

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  1. Dynasty

    Dynasty Member

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    I know there are many gun lubricating products out there ranging from motor oil to transmission fluid to chain saw oil to even olive oil! Of course there are the gun specific lubricants as well. With so many options out there...it got me thinking. Is there such thing as a bad lubricant on the market? Has anyone had a gun problem/failure due to the lubricant used? Anyone hear of a story or experienced something dealing with the lubricant used was the cause of a problem?
     
  2. biggiesmalls

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    imo an undesirable oil to put in your gun would be a food based oil or an oil that's too thick.
     
  3. Rob G

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    I'm going to vote against any lubricant that has anything to do with the following:
    1. Internal combustion engines
    2. Transmissions
    3. Stir Fry

    But on a more serious note I don't believe I've ever heard of anyone using a "gun specific" lubricant that has had a problem with it. Generally their problems come from: not using enough of it, using it infrequently. Personally I've been using Hoppes for about a decade now but I'd be curious to know if there's something that really is better.
     
  4. Ifishsum

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    Actually food-based oils are appropriate for black powder firearms, because any type of petroleum based oil turns to a tar that's very hard to clean up when mixed with black powder residue. My cap and ball revolvers get extra virgin olive oil and it's a very good lubricant.

    For my modern firearms, Remoil or Hoppes oil works just fine for me. Stay away from WD-40, it's a very poor lubricant. I also had some oil on my shotgun once that got real gummy after less than a year and made it hard to work the action, but I don't remember exactly what it was.
     
  5. Hk91-762mm

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    Sorry I'm not going to be much help,
    I mostly use trans fluid -That stuff is great it will dissolve most residue and will penetrate rust,Most of my guns are Military surplus and it will turn brown as it sucks the dirt and rust out of some old Guns .
    One thing about Gun oils ---I think they are made to lubricate the GUN OWNER as much as the guns themselves--[OOOhhhh Look At this super fortified extra molecule Silicone enhanced Super slippery stuff] and its only 10$ a 4oz bottle.
    Maby you could try==ASTROGLIDE!
     
  6. Ifishsum

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    LOL Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
     
  7. DWARREN123

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    I think EEZOX and STEEL SHIELD are 2 of the better lubricants for firearms. They protect, lube and clean somewhat.
    I have found that many folk lubricate too much and in the wrong locations with the improper type of lubricant. A small bottle of lube should last a good while for one firearm.
     
  8. buttrap

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    Best oil you can get is sperm whale oil its not PC now but thats why 150 year old wind up 26 jewel tic tocks still work.
     
  9. CajunBass

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    I generally use some stuff called "gun oil."

    I suppose most anything would do in a pinch though.
     
  10. jkingrph

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    With the velocity of parts in a modern internal combustion engine, and pressures involved the oils used must be good.

    I like Mobil 1, weight is not really important and a quart costs about the same as a small (1-2oz) bottle of gun oil. Key word is oil.
     
  11. JaxNovice

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    My wife insists that I use KY. Wait are we talking about gun oil?
     
  12. ranger335v

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    "Of course there are the gun specific lubricants as well."

    The cost of refining oils for specific purposes forbids anyone make the small quanities of oils shooters need. We only get something made for larger purposes that have been relabeled and sold at much higher costs than can be justified only because we - or many of us - are willing to pay for what is thought to be a special oil for guns. Just not so.

    As mentioned above, sperm whale oil was the finest "gun oil" ever avaliable but it's own success doomed it. The original sperm oils were not only used in clocks and watches and guns and other fine machines, it was the original auto transmission fluid. The needs quickly exceed the supply so a substitue was developed and that substitute is also perhaps the finest light gun oil available at any price, it's just Auto Transmission Fluid (ATF). It has good film strength, good resistance to heat and cold, good lubricity and does not dry to leave a gummy film on the surfaces.

    ATF is the main ingrediant in the excellant "Ed's Red" all-around gun oil and bore cleaner. Ed found that a mixture of ATF, oderless mineral spirits and a couple of other trace ingrediants like acetone works really well. I just use straight ATF, prefer the synthetic type but it really doesn't seem to matter.
    You can pay more but you can't get a better gun oil.

    Jax, try a bit of K-Y as case lube, you will be surprised. I though if it helped insertion with one situation it might with another. It worked pretty well.
     
  13. The Swede

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    Vegetable oil is not a good lubricant for firearms. After a while, maybe 2 weeks to a month, it will turn very sticky almost like glue.
     
  14. Slugless

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    I work for an oil company.

    It is correct to say that companies don't refine gun oils. In most cases they are not, however, simply relabeled. Oils are blended from refined feedstocks and additives for specific purposes.

    The conditions and lubricating requirements of engines and transmissions are different than those of guns. That doesn't mean motor oil and ATF won't work for a firearm but they are not designed for that purpose.

    YMMV. (pun intended)
     
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    oil

    Corrosion X products
     
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    gun oil in centerfires, rimfires shotguns. Olive oil in black powder. Black powder guns get used frequently so there is not worry about oil turning to sludge. Even the inside of chambers and barrels are coated with oil. Just use alcohol patches to remove oil prior to use.
     
  17. Gun Slinger

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    I have been using Mobil 1 20w50 (VTWIN) in all of my rifles, pistols and shotguns for years without any issues.

    I use it not for the fact that it is significantly cheaper than the gun specific products, but that it is without a doubt the best lubricant that I have ever used in every aspect of it's performance and application as a 'gun lubricant', bar none.

    That it is so much less expensive than the vast multitude of 'gun specific' "wonderlubes" available is simply "icing on the cake".

    Not to mention that it is also suitable for use with black powder/muzzleloaders.
     
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    I have been using Hoppe's Solvent and Hoppe's Gun Oil for years and have never had a problem.
     
  19. Bezoar

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    their is NO all purpose gun oil. SOME products come close, but the oil or lubricant that keeps your gun running fine in the desert during a sandstorm shoot out, is not normally the product to use while hunting bear in alaska when its 20 below.

    The thing about lubricants is that they will all tend to dry and gum up after awhile. As they are intended to be used as part of a correct regimine of gun maintenance,
    ie clean the gun every few weeks and keep it squeaky. Although cleaning and lubing it, and throwing it in the trunk for 5 years can work in some situations, itsbest to check your gun alot.
     
  20. foreveryoung001

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    I was a little hesitant to try mobile-1 but now I am never going back to anything else. It is the best stuff I have ever used on my firearms, from my 1911 to my AR and everything in between. The stuff never dries out, never gums up, coats everything perfectly, and makes every moving part work more smoothly.

    I never had any problems with any of the gun specific oils, and I've used a bunch of different one's over the years, but once I tried Mobile-1, I become hooked.
     
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    I'm another advocate of synthetic motor oil. I've used Mobil 1 for years on all my firearms and noted all the same benefits as the previous poster. Recently I started using Amsoil synthetic oil and it's also been great. I recommend using it with a precision oiler, like the one made by Dewey's. It allows for pinpoint application of oil.
     
  22. Gun Slinger

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    Those little 1/2 oz. HDPE needle oilers from Brownell's that come three to a pack are wonderful for putting a small drop of M1 wherever you want it since a little M1 goes a long way.

    :)
     
  23. 19-3Ben

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    I use Amsoil 10-w30. Fantastic stuff. I used to use Remoil, which is ok, but I found that most gun oils run off/evaporate, or go somewhere. Where? I dunno. they are probably hanging out with the socks from the drier, or that extra $5 bill you swear you had in your pocket.
    Maybe they are all having party.
     
  24. Gun Slinger

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    19-3Ben,

    If you check the M.S.D.S. for RemOil, you will find that it is 55% solvent per the materials section and that is why it tends to disappear so quickly.

    I have no idea as to the 'whereabouts' of your missing sock and the five dollar bill though...:D

    Good luck.
     
  25. Clean97GTI

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    I have used Markal E-Z Break copper grade anti-seize compound/lubricant on the slides and running surfaces of my semi auto firearms for a number of years now. A little goes a long way and it stays where you put it and remains there for a long time.
    The best part is that it doesn't really attract dust and dirt unless you put way too much on. It also tolerates heat very well and is easy to remove with a simple solvent. It does leave a residue on certain finishes if you aren't careful requiring the use of a solvent on those finishes to get it off. In other words, be careful and apply sparingly.
     
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