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Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by HoosierHunter128, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. HoosierHunter128

    HoosierHunter128 Member

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    I'm looking for a 15-25 gun safe with a spinning combination lock. Dicks has a field & stream 24 gun safe on sale for $399 right now from $699. I'm really just trying to keep the kids away from them, but don't want just a cabinet. Has anyone bought from dicks before? I think field and stream is Stack On? Anyone know of any Black Friday deals, or cyber Monday? Any help is appreciated.
     
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  2. DukeConnor

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    There are other sources for safes besides sporting goods vendors. Check out tractor supply and home Depot also.
     
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  3. Jack B.

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    Try Liberty. They make safes for a lot of different brand names and some times they have good sales and they make a good safe. Might be more than you are looking for though.
     
  4. mjsdwash

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    ill be the first to say, pay more for a mechanical lock.
     
  5. CapnMac

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    Ok, a couple of things.
    The actual number of guns that fit in a safe is typically 2/3 listed. So, a 24 will actually hold 15-16.

    Also, let's cipher a bit. 15 guns at $500 each is $7500, probably worth a teeny bit more than a 10/22 to protect them.

    Now, the Liberty recommended above is good stuff. You get a Lincoln 25, the sticker shock will be $3k plus delivery. But, at that price point you could get a Sturdy 3627-6, better safe, fewer frills.

    But, I'm likely biased, bit north of ten grand in my safe, so, I'm happy with what I spent on a Liberty Lincoln (but, I'd still rather have a Sturdy).
     
  6. hdwhit

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    When you go looking for a safe (just like when you go looking for a lawyer) the question is how much security are you willing to pay for? What perils are you trying to protect against (i.e. unauthorized access, theft, fire, etc.)?

    Are your guns collector's items or could you replace most of them tomorrow with a trip to the LGS? If they're irreplaceable then you need to spend more to protect them. If you can buy equivalents tomorrow, then not so much.

    Using CapnMac's assumptions, should you spend $10,000 to protect a collection worth $7,500? Probably not.

    Focus on security, not the safe. Harden your home as a target by deciding what risks you want to protect against and implementing layers of security to address those risks. In my case, I just want to protect against the casual burglar. I have two guns that have significant sentimental value, but which could be readily replaced. Accordingly, I have reinforced doors on my house, an alarm system, a safe, located in an inconspicuous corner of a closet and any thief headed towards the closet would have to pass by two easily pawned Thinkpad computers. I consider this adequate. And so far it has been. When the computers are stolen, I can go to the local pawn shops and buy them back for only a few dollars.
     
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  7. ColtPythonElite

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    I am comfortable with RSC's from a big box store to protect what I have from the smash and grabbers or kids. If thieves want your guns, they will come prepared and most likely get them regardless of whose name is on your safe's door. For that event, I have a good insurance policy.
     
  8. Big Wes

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    My advice is if you can afford to buy one bigger than you think you need, buy it, they tend to fill up faster than you think.
     
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  9. GunnyUSMC

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    My advice is always get a bigger safe then you need. I now have three. a 16, a 28 and a 47. I still need a bigger safe. :cuss:
     
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  10. anothernewb

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    We went with a company called snap safe. Very handy if you have to haul it to a difficult location, or move. I'm super pleased with mine.

    Just looked at their site again. Apparently they think they're the cat's meow now. Prices are more than double what I paid. yikes. they're really nice- but not as nice as the current price point.
     
  11. Walkalong

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    It will work for that. Only question is will you outgrow it, and 24 means more like 12, unless you don't mind jamming them all together, or taking out the racks, stuffing them all in gun socks and piling them in. :)
     
  12. Klint Beastwood

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    Costco for those that shop there
     
  13. George P

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    Most cheap safes are Chinese made and steel thickness and quality cab suspect - even from name brands so always check. Realize - as has been said - that if a safe says it holds 20, that those would 20 single shots with no scopes or other attachments. If you own ARs, rifles with scopes or fixed extended mags, your usable count will be half or less.

    Buy once, cry once. Cheap safes can be broken into with a crowbar or a sledge hammer when used properly in



     
  14. Jack B.

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    Buying a bigger safe than what you think you need is great advise. Listen to the advise of all the others posting here, they know. The sales person where I bought mine advised this and I did as they said. Was great at first but now I wish I had gone even bigger.:thumbup:
     
  15. John Joseph

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    I'm not a fan of Costco gun safes after the damage I've seen done to the floor models there.
    For the OPs intended purpose a cheap big box model will probably be OK though.
    Bolt it down good and solid though!
     
  16. Klint Beastwood

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    Yeah i know what you mean. Funny that you mentioned that because that’s basically what I bought. I got one of those floor models for CHEAP.
     
  17. sota

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    that sentrysafe video... other safe makers use the same button method.

    eta: one of my safes had the same vulnerability. I say "had" because I just took some time and fixed it.
     
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  18. Elkins45

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    Two smaller safes are a batter security option than one big one, assuming they are of good quality. If all of your stuff is in one safe it takes half as long to get to it than if it’s spread across two of them.
     
  19. hdwhit

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    Construct your security in layers.

    Make your house harder to get into by improving the locks and hinges on exterior doors and make sure they are installed with long screws.

    Get a monitored alarm system. This will not only protect your guns, but your other valuables as well.

    Contact your insurance company and see if you can add a rider to cover your guns to your homeowner's policy. It may be surprisingly affordable. A $3,000 rider covering my server farm costs less than $10 a year. My gun "collection" is so small that my homeowner's insurance covers it without a rider.

    If you can replace most or all your guns with a check from the insurance company and a trip to the gun store, then get enough of a safe to keep kids and casual thieves away from your guns.

    If you have rare guns or irreplaceable guns then you'll need to decide how much you are willing to spend to protect them.
     
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  20. Jack B.

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    My driveway and property perimeter are alarmed my house is alarmed and my safe has an alarm system in it. All send me text message if they are activated if I'm not home. I think
    I've got my guns protected as best I can.
     
  21. opsman

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    I know I am late to the party here, but there are a number of things to consider before you spend your hard earned money. First do your research, look at the construction of various companies and you will find that the basic construction is pretty much the same from company to company. You will pay more for thicker steel, when reading the gauge of steel think of gauge like you do when thinking about a shotgun, the lower the number the thicker the steel. What we call a gun safe is not a true safe, they are Residential Security Containers. The Fire Rating varies from company to company as well, there is no set standard unless it is the UL standard and none of them are UL listed for fire, every company has their own testing standards, they all with the exception of Sturdy use gypsum board aka sheetrock/drywall yep the same stuff as the walls in most homes. Why do they use this, well the reason is simple, gypsum board retains moisture locked within it for years, once exposed to heat that moisture is released and it keeps the inside temp of your RSC cooler than burning point, does this mean your firearms will come through unscathed, well that depends upon a lot of things, far to many to list here. Keep in mind how far you live from the fire department and what is the response time to your home, the farther you live get a longer rated RSC.
    I own a Superior Master Series, 10 gauge body with a 3/8 thick solid plate on the door. my advice is this, buy the most protection you can afford and the biggest you can afford, think of it as a lifetime investment because nobody wants to spend their money only to have to buy another one in a few years. They do fill up fast, one thing I did was to install a product called Rifle Rods, I was able to put more rifles in the same area as before, I really recommend them.
     
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    Just ordered a STURDY 3627 fire lined. Can''t wait for it to get here. Looked at various safes for about a month. Decided on the STURDY due to the "bang" for the buck. 4 gauge steel, with the 16 gauge inner liner. Of course the mechanical dial. More than I wanted to spend BUT buy once, cry once.

     
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  23. EMT40SW

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    I would search Craigslist or talk your local locksmith or safe movers about a quality used safe with lots of steel. You will get a much better safe for less. It seems like most current new safes (really RSC) under $1500 are designed to look very beefy & secure. Look at how thick the door is but has very little steel. I like old safes because they have quality mechanics locks that are more reliable & thick steel. I especially like old Pro Steel & Browning safes from the 70s & 80s. The old brown ones. But then again I could care less about fire protection. That’s not what risk my safe is designed for. YMMV
     
  24. JeffG

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    Costco, yes Costco is featuring Cannon Safes in some stores right now...
     
  25. opsman

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    If you are looking for a budget safe, then by all means look at Tractor Supply, they carry Cannon and Winchester, Home Depot carries Stack-On, Lowes carries Cannon, Stack-On and Barska, even Academy Sports carries Cannon and some Winchester. It is also a good idea to check with Locksmiths who deal in safes, often they will have a used gun safe that will actually be a great deal, even take a look at Craigslist, never know what you will find on there.
     
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