Gun Shop Loyalty

[Dan Wesson]

One of our LGSs (the best one) prices his lowest offer on new guns. Gen, it’s about what I can buy on the net for including transfer fee. Very fair. Will check with owners on consignment guns. Used guns are reasonably priced.

 

[Mark_Mark]

A guy named Jack Canfield taught to "Ask, Ask, Ask' The worst outcome is a NO but in many cases they will accomodate you. I do it @ hotels for free upgraded rooms, upgraded seating on long flights and recently at a LGS when they did not carry the grade of ammo I wanted but would accept (for a price) an internet shipment of that type ammo.
When the shipment came in I asked for a military discount on the processing cost...'NO, the boss is a Marine'. (What that had do do with anything I am not sure and did not ask.)
'How about cash vs CC'....YES! Had I not asked I would have paid a higher processing cost.
When I was selling, on consignment, through another LGS, we agreed on an asking price and a lowest acceptable offer. Like another poster said, used guns can be dickered over. Believe it or not......all firearms sold at the original asking price.....no one tried to negotiate. Sad for them but good for me.
Which reminds me I hope everyone asks for a better price on a new (and used) automobile. Their mark-up includes room to negotiate.
OK, OK...I am off my soap box.

Problem is… they have resorted to “No”
for everything. Bet if I ask to pay over asking the answer be NO

here the rub… I seen a customer ask for a better price on a New Gun. and the Sales guy gave him something off. then I seen the manager pay the difference of a custom order that came in more expensive than quoted.

I’ll still go back to the shop to use up my tons of accumulated range passes, and hopefully get a deal on something used that came in. But asking us over for me.

BTW… they either prices WAY WAY WAY to low or Way Way Way over

 

[dogtown tom]

I mostly buy Used Guns, or they are selling it for someone else. It’s traditional to haggle used guns prices. Now if the shop was strict about rock solid price, I get it. But they Gave me 5% off - 10% off in the past. And I buy a LOT of used guns

So entitled, a little. But I put my $$$ where my mouth is. It’s common for my to buy 3-4 used Guns at a purchase…

Again, Would it make you happier if the dealer priced the item 25% higher......then gave you 20% off?

Quite a few posts in this thread answered my first question, but conveniently ignored this one.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Again, Would it make you happier if the dealer priced the item 25% higher......then gave you 20% off?

Quite a few posts in this thread answered my first question, but conveniently ignored this one.

yes! but I wouldn’t shop there!

 

[Riomouse911]

I’ll ask if the tag price is firm. If its something I really want anyway I will buy it with either a yes or no.

If it’s just a kick the tires day where a deal will tip the scales, I’ll ask. If its yes I’ll buy, if no I’ll walk.

Stay safe.

 

[dogtown tom]

yes! but I wouldn’t shop there!

Wait, first you are upset that they have no wiggle room, now you wouldn't shop there when they do have wiggle room?

I see not one shred of and a whole lot of

 

[horsemen61]

Again, Would it make you happier if the dealer priced the item 25% higher......then gave you 20% off?

Quite a few posts in this thread answered my first question, but conveniently ignored this one.

Yes it would at least then I’d know we have a chance to work together and if you Buy Anything These Days without doing your homework and Overpay Shame On You!!!! I get it you Like Paying Full Price and that’s Awesome for You but don’t act Like People Are Wrong for Trying to get The Most Out of A Dollar there is that enough of an Answer for you?

 

[dogtown tom]

Yes it would at least then I’d know we have a chance to work together and if you Buy Anything These Days without doing your homework and Overpay Shame On You!!!! I get it you Like Paying Full Price and that’s Awesome for You but don’t act Like People Are Wrong for Trying to get The Most Out of A Dollar there is that enough of an Answer for you?

The Point...you Have missed It.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Wait, first you are upset that they have no wiggle room, now you wouldn't shop there when they do have wiggle room?

I see not one shred of and a whole lot of

I don’t get it bro

 

[Mark_Mark]

Yes it would at least then I’d know we have a chance to work together and if you Buy Anything These Days without doing your homework and Overpay Shame On You!!!! I get it you Like Paying Full Price and that’s Awesome for You but don’t act Like People Are Wrong for Trying to get The Most Out of A Dollar there is that enough of an Answer for you?

Heck… Costco gave me a gift bag for signing up 4 the cash back credit card!

But these Shop Ani’t Loyal!

 

[Mark_Mark]

I’ll ask if the tag price is firm. If its something I really want anyway I will buy it with either a yes or no.

If it’s just a kick the tires day where a deal will tip the scales, I’ll ask. If its yes I’ll buy, if no I’ll walk.

Stay safe.

Yeah.. I’ll be kicking the tires are a bit.. Saving up for a Les Baer!!!

 

[chicharrones]

Heck… Costco gave me a gift bag for signing up 4 the cash back credit card!

But these Shop Ani’t Loyal!

A gift bag? Full of what?

The hotel chain I stay at for work tries to give me a gift bag at the beginning of each work week so that they don't have to give me points. You know what was in last week's gift bag offer? A 16 ounce bottle of water and a lunch sized bag of potato chips. Screw that, give me my points.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I’ll ask if the tag price is firm. If its something I really want anyway I will buy it with either a yes or no.

If it’s just a kick the tires day where a deal will tip the scales, I’ll ask. If its yes I’ll buy, if no I’ll walk.

Stay safe.

got a shop with 3 or 4 New Les Baer! Really want one! $2700 for a P2 with 1.5” guarantee

 

[Mark_Mark]

A gift bag? Full of what?

The hotel chain I stay at for work tries to give me a gift bag at the beginning of each work week so that they don't have to give me points. You know what was in last week's gift bag offer? A 16 ounce bottle of water and a lunch sized bag of potato chips. Screw that, give me my points.

Cozy, bag of candy, toes bag, and rubber bands for chip bags

 

[horsemen61]

The Point...you Have missed It.

Then please explain it to me I’m just a dumb truck driver so maybe if you explain it slow I’ll get it trying to make my limited Gun Money Go As Far as I can make it Go is stupid and wrong so please enlighten me I’m all Ears or in this case I’m all eyes since I’ll read it

 

[Mark_Mark]

Then please explain it to me I’m just a dumb truck driver so maybe if you explain it slow I’ll get it trying to make my limited Gun Money Go As Far as I can make it Go is stupid and wrong so please enlighten me I’m all Ears or in this case I’m all eyes since I’ll read it

alright Alright … let me rub my 2 brain cells cuz I’m a Uber Driver.

Dog is a Dealer and don’t like giving Discounts. Mark is a Buyer & like discounts (but rarely gets it)

 

[The Night Rider]

I haven't bought a gun in 11 years but I'm loyal to SG Ammo.

Does that count?

 

[Miami_JBT]

As an established customer in a number of shops across FL. I'm pretty much a quasi-employee and have full access to the inventory without even needing to ask. I walk in, say hi, browse the store, and if something grabs my attention, I walk behind the counter and pull it out. In one shop, I even don't need to haggle, I just scan and see what the shop has listed in the computer as their lowest allowable sale price. In the end, they're happy with me since I usually buy something, period. Whether it is a gun or just something from the $5 bargain-bin rando box.

It helps that I spend money in their businesses, help promote their businesses, and I've been/currently am in the business myself.

Now, I've also been to shops that have treated me like garbage in the past, and they never will my money. There was one shop in Hialeah, FL that I literally walked in while finishing up a phone call and the owner told me he doesn't like people on the phone in his store. Mind you, I was literally ending the call as I walked through the door and was saying "hey, I'll call you back." That didn't matter, the shop owner was rude. I turned right around and told me I guess my money is no good their either and walked right out. I bumped into the shop owner while working the gun show circuit a while later. He was pissed at me all those years later. Because all the folks in the industry basically told him "you idiot, he and his old man are frequent buyers. You burnt that bridge."

Oh well.

When I worked as an FFL, I always made sure that all my customers were treated fairly, and my repeat customers were treated very well. Because a repeat customer is the difference between a closed business and an open business. Sure, I might not have gotten that extra couple of bucks on one sale. But in the long run, it all added up and eclipsed what I would have made on one sale.

Quantity has a quality all on its own.

 

[dogtown tom]

Dog is a Dealer

Yep

and don’t like giving Discounts.

Nope.
I offer numerous discounts. 50% off on transfer fees for police/fire/active military/teachers/LTC holders and multiple firearm transfers.. I also discount for cash purchases.

Mark is a Buyer & like discounts (but rarely gets it)

Yet when I asked if you would be happier getting a 20% discount....you said "yes! but I wouldn’t shop there!". So why would you not shop there? THATS YOUR WHINE! You complain about the gun store not offering wiggle room, now you say you wont shop there. If you won't shop there then why get bent out of shape over a discount that you won't take advantage of anyway?

Do you want to pay a fair price every day? Or prefer the dealer sticker price allow for that "wiggle room"?
Example:
If the dealer needs to get $500 on his sale he could mark it $500 "price is firm".
or
Dealer could mark it $550 and give you a $50 off discount "just for you".

Either way you pay $500.


I have by far the cheapest silencer pricing in Dallas-Fort Worth (Ive been told). Even with my comparisons of what the buyer would pay at other retailers vs me, there's always the guy that thinks there's more room to wiggle.....when there isn't. I don't work for free. Dickering, negotiating, haggling are life sucking time wasters. If you don't like my price, buy elsewhere. It won't hurt my feelings. But when my price is saving the buyer $200 off what Capitol Armory, Scheels or some online retailer is charging.......my prices ARE ALREADY DISCOUNTED.

 

[dogtown tom]

Then please explain it to me I’m just a dumb truck driver so maybe if you explain it slow I’ll get it trying to make my limited Gun Money Go As Far as I can make it Go is stupid and wrong so please enlighten me I’m all Ears or in this case I’m all eyes since I’ll read it

I will if you can Explain all Your Weird capitalizations and RUN on Sentences.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Yep



Nope.
I offer numerous discounts. 50% off on transfer fees for police/fire/active military/teachers/LTC holders and multiple firearm transfers.. I also discount for cash purchases.


Yet when I asked if you would be happier getting a 20% discount....you said "yes! but I wouldn’t shop there!". So why would you not shop there? THATS YOUR WHINE! You complain about the gun store not offering wiggle room, now you say you wont shop there. If you won't shop there then why get bent out of shape over a discount that you won't take advantage of anyway?

Do you want to pay a fair price every day? Or prefer the dealer sticker price allow for that "wiggle room"?
Example:
If the dealer needs to get $500 on his sale he could mark it $500 "price is firm".
or
Dealer could mark it $550 and give you a $50 off discount "just for you".

Either way you pay $500.


I have by far the cheapest silencer pricing in Dallas-Fort Worth (Ive been told). Even with my comparisons of what the buyer would pay at other retailers vs me, there's always the guy that thinks there's more room to wiggle.....when there isn't. I don't work for free. Dickering, negotiating, haggling are life sucking time wasters. If you don't like my price, buy elsewhere. It won't hurt my feelings. But when my price is saving the buyer $200 off what Capitol Armory, Scheels or some online retailer is charging.......my prices ARE ALREADY DISCOUNTED.

I've learned a simple thing fact in life.

The goal of both parties is to get the best deal possible. Every vendor wants to get as much profit from the sale. Every buyer wants to save as muc from the profit. Both will work towards somewhere in the middle. And honestly, I'm fine with that. I don't want to waste my time nor the vendor's time.

If I know a shop has the cheapest prices in town and there's no wiggle, but they're cheaper than everyone else. I save not just money, but time. That works for me.

I simply like to calculate total OTD price. That's the product, sales tax, and background check fee.

If one dealer has an overall cheaper OTD price compared to another, even if there's no haggling. Works for me. I still save money. And I save time too.

 

[dogtown tom]

I simply like to calculate total OTD price. That's the product, sales tax, and background check fee.

If one dealer has an overall cheaper OTD price compared to another, even if there's no haggling. Works for me. I still save money. And I save time too.

You get the point.

 

[Mark_Mark]

You get the point.

I still don’t get your point. But I know I will be shopping around and kicking tires!

anyway, I’m not getting personal or anything, Just want a discount every $15,000 I spend! like $5 would be cool!

 

[Mark_Mark]

Also.. this shops manager said, “Why you trying to J ** me out of $5” grant you, it was a bargain bin holster that came with a gun they took in?!?!?!

 

[horsemen61]

I will if you can Explain all Your Weird capitalizations and RUN on Sentences.

Then please explain it to me, I’m just a dumb truck driver. Maybe if you explain it slow I’ll get it? Trying to make my limited gun money go as far as it can. Is stupid and wrong so please enlighten me! I’m all Ears or in this case I’m all eyes since I’ll read it.