GunsAmerica vs. Gunbroker
You have to be kidding. I've bought and sold dozens of guns on GunBroker and have never been outbid by someone who didn't follow through (you can check the feedback left by the buyer & seller), nor have I ever had a buyer not beat the door down rushing to get payment to me. If you have any real experience buying or selling on GunBroker you would know this.
I have both bought and sold on GB as a private citizen. It didn't happen to me once. I worked a booth at the NRA show and was told this by more than a dozen people.
Uh......do you have any idea how auctions work? You bid what you think the item is worth (that's called your maximum). If you bid more than the item is worth JUST TO WIN....great! Sellers love that.
Don't sell anything on ebay do you?
I've got news for ya......nobody gets denied the opportunity to bid on Ebay. The majority of Ebay auctions are SEVEN DAYS LONG. At any time during those seven days you are free to bid as much as you want. So called "sniper" software for Ebay is useless against a bidder who puts in a bid HIGHER than what you authorized your so called sniper. Everyone thinks if they wait until the last thirty seconds they'll get the item cheaper. If you've set your sniper to bid $50 in the last second, I'll still beat you by bidding $51....because I placed that bid SIX DAYS AGO.
Maybe you put in your maximum bid, but statistically most people put in what they want to buy it for, which is statistically much lower than it will go for. By sniping you don't give them the chance to up their bid to a more realistic price. I buy everything on ebay actually that I can, and I snipe everything.
Riiiiiiight....
That's like saying books aren't good for reading. If GunBroker was the big waste of space you believe it is, it would be belly up by now. GunBroker allows little part time FFL's like me to sell my guns to the entire USA. GunsAmerica wishes it had half the traffic/page hits of GunBroker.
If you check online third party sources, GunsAmerica has much more than half the traffic of GB, and twice as much as AA and Davidsons. Gunbroker actually was belly up, but they scored a 7 million dollar loan this year so they could keep their head above water. [/QUOTE]
No, they don't. All you have to do is see the same ad on Guns America for the last two years to know that a lot of firearms dealers have no clue what a gun is really worth. Gunbroker is not imune to this, and those guns remain unsold. A gun is worth what someone is willing to pay. Period.
GunsAmerica is mostly classified ads and that ad probably has sold hundreds of guns. It stays up because up to a million new people visit GunsAmerica in a given month.
Really? Have you ever bought a gun online or off GunBroker? I'm an FFL in Texas, I don't have a retail storefront, nor am I a stocking dealer. I do transfers. Where do ya think my customers find the firearms they have shipped to me?
I'll tell you where....out of the last hundred transfers I processed:
0 from GunsAmerica
2 were from Auction Arms
3 were orders placed by me at customer request with a distributor
17 were from gunforums (THR, GlockTalk, AR15, etc)
26 were from online gunstores (Bud's, Impact, Cabela's, CDNN, etc)
52 were from GunBroker
Yes, I have, but I stopped since they were both broken. The last one was an 87 Winchester level shotgun for cowboy shooting. It fell apart when I shot it, litteraly in pieces. Sellers know that Gunbroker has no customer support whatsoever so they can sell broken guns with no recourse. GunsAmerica answers customer support inquiries generally the same day boot sellers who rip customers off. Check out the rip off report for gunbroker.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/Company/Gunbroker.aspx
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You havne't gotten transfers from GunsAmerica because you probably aren't on their FFL list.
WalMart is one of my local dealers. I buy as much ammunition as I can from them. If you mean the local "mom & pop" gunstore? Sorry, I don't reward rudeness, ignorance, AND high prices.
You make this statement about buying from local dealers..........but you want everyone to patronize GunsAmerica? Are you aware that GunsAmerica sellers aren't all local to where you live?
That you pay too much from mom and pop dealers is a myth. You may pay $50 more for a gun than you will online, and that is at the outside, but in the process you are supporting the backbone of our gun freedom. Without gun dealers there will be no guns.
You are an FFL, but you are not a gun dealer. If a new piece of legislation comes along, you will most likely drop your license. The stocking gun dealer will not. That is why GunsAmerica supports stocking gun dealers because they are not just concerned with making as many after sale fees as they can get. They are a resource for the whole industry. The company is owned and run by real gun people, NRA life members. Real gun dealers work on a 10-18% margin generally, so to undercut them, as some basement dealers are still doing (though it boggles the mind why), you have to sell for much less than that. With the transfer fee and risk of not getting what you won at the auction, it isn't worth it.
I may not always agree with our moderators, but they have always been fair. Everyone whose been on THR long enough has probably had a thread or post burned by the moderators and been given a talking to. We all have passionate views and we've all said something that got a bit out of line. Our moderators have done an excellent job of keeping us in check and keeping this forum from becoming just another worthless site on the web. 
