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Gunman in the Mall, right now!!!!!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by iamhistory, Feb 12, 2005.

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  1. iamhistory

    iamhistory Member

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    Right now as I am typing this, there is a massive LEO response taking place at our local mall and all man and vehicle exits are being blocked. It just went over the scanner that a guy brandishing a handgun just went into the "Finish Line" (like a "Footlocker") and walked around the store. A female clerk saw the guy and called for security. Security (unarmed) called for LEO backup, converged on the store and blocked exits in the store vicinity. I'm wondering what LEO response will be like since there is a local dept. actually based in the mall itself and the State Troopers HQ is about 10 minutes away at a casual driving speed.

    The amazing thing is............security hung too far back to await LEO backup and now the manhunt just got bigger b/c the guy got away. They CANNOT find him even with eyewitnesses tracking his movements and feeding info via phone to security.

    I'll keep my ears to the ground and see what happens. Any new info. and I'll report a.s.a.p. I'm interested to see how this one turns out. The gunman was not identified so far and they are not reporting what his motive might be.....he apparently was looking for someone but the situation is still playing out.
     
  2. P95Carry

    P95Carry Moderator Emeritus

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    ''Brandishing'' is enough to get the cavalry out --- report back as and when.
     
  3. TrybalRage

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    Could this just be a case of mistaken threat? i.e. legal open carry?

    I only ask because he was "just walking around the store".
     
  4. taliv

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    heh

    maybe it's the sleep deprivation, but your post reminded me of that ray stevens song about the streaker

    "i was just minding my own business, looking for a size 12 birkenstock, and there he was; waving his bryco at a pair of nike air jordans. Don't look, Ethel!"
     
  5. iamhistory

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    Trybalrage.......no mistaken id here or open carry snafu. He "was just walking around the store" with the pistol in his hand.
     
  6. MICHAEL T

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    Maybe he lost his holster and looking for another one :D
     
  7. dev_null

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    You know, when you say "the Mall" in caps like that, it has a different meaning for those of us in the DC area. :cool:

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  8. boofus

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    Isn't the mall posted? You know all it takes to make a criminal change his ways is a big sign. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Edmond

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    I don't really understand the concept of unarmed security. I do understand that not every employer wants their employees to work armed for liability purposes but security should be armed.
     
  10. Walter

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    Give us a Clue

    Iamhistory,

    I can't help but wonder just where in the country some nut is running around
    in a mall brandishing a pistol. Can you give us a location? :confused:

    Walter
     
  11. Alan Fud

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    Man walking around in public with gun in hand :confused: can't even begin to imagine what valid excuse he could come up with :rolleyes:
     
  12. carebear

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    He had to put the cruller in the holster or he would eat it before he found his wife.

    Happens to me all the time. Except the wife part.
     
  13. tony4311

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    <----also would like to have some clue as to where the location is.
     
  14. possenti

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    Walking around the "Finish Line" shoe store?

    The one at my local mall actually has a miniature "running track" on the floor inside the store.

    Maybe it's just a starter pistol. :D
     
  15. possenti

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    Btt!

    Similar story on FOX News now!

    Is this in the same area? Kingston NY?

    Reports of 2 or more shooters...
     
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    Radio is saying shots fired.
     
  17. Bart Noir

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    Can't be same story as iamhistory's Man in Mystery Mall....

    There's over 12 hours between the events.

    Bart Noir
    Waiting for the rest of the story on Fox.
     
  18. jobu07

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    If it is the same shooting that is going on as in NY, there are 8 some people hurt and our malls generally aren't posted. The only place that is illegal to carry are schools and court houses. Anyway, i heard the CLEO saying that the perp's were using "machine pistols" and that bystanders heard possible machine gun fire. If there were 3 men with automatics, some people might be easily confusing it for machine gun fire. But my god, if they do have full auto... That's very scarey. :uhoh:
     
  19. Third_Rail

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    Yeah, they'll miss more. Woo, scary.

    I'm more concerned with people who can aim over people who have FA firearms.
     
  20. carebear

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    Third,

    The problem is that when they miss their target in a confined, crowded space (shopping mall) the other bullets can tend to hit those not involved (and too slow to duck :rolleyes: ).

    Sure the target is usually happy they're on rock-n-roll.

    (All this, of course, assumes that they can't hit on full-auto, there are a lot of people who got taught proper trigger control for whom FA is an asset, not necessarily a hindrance. We need to quit assuming incompetence.)
     
  21. molonlabe

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    Here we go. Fox just said it was probably an assault weapon since there were reports of rapid fire. What a bunch of pin heads.

    From the lack of people killed I would suspect hanguns. Also they are saying three gunmen involved. I think I need more information though before I shoot my mouth off Fox news.
     
  22. Cortland

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    The police spokesman said it was an "assault type rifle."
     
  23. Cosmoline

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    Looks like you-know-who may finally have his big chance to take one in the back!
     
  24. carebear

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    All those hours of NEF assembly are finally gonna pay off!
     
  25. armoredman

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    Someone else who mistakes an SKS for an "assault rifle". It'll be two guys with stolen Glocks...
     
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