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Guns for $444 or less (+ price of SKS)

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by monotonous_iterancy, Jun 8, 2012.

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  1. monotonous_iterancy

    monotonous_iterancy Member

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    So I'm in the market for a new firearm and I'd like recommendations. My budget is about $444. Thanks to the information I learned about my SKS (and I really appreciate you guys telling me that, thank you), I'm going to sell that and add the money to my budget. I'd like to know what a fair asking price would be on it. I'll post pictures in the next post.

    I start looking at prices tomorrow, on my wish list is:

    A Mauser in 7 or 8mm, I don't remember which, but I remember seeing it in the store and being a decent price, in the 3 or $400 range.

    A .357 magnum lever action.

    A revolver in .357, preferably a medium or large frame. I saw a 972 Rossi for $409, but that seems a tad overpriced, and I'm sure I could afford better.

    I also saw a Saiga 12 gauge that looked pretty cool.


    I'll also take any other gun suggestions of any type you can give me. My main criteria is that it will hold or increase it's value over the years. Thanks!
     
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  2. firesky101

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    Just my 1/50th of a dollar, but you will be hard pressed to find something that has a track record of increasing in value like a sks in your price range.
     
  3. monotonous_iterancy

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    My SKS, it's in decent shape I suppose. It has an aftermarket mag. Would I get more money by converting it to the standard mag? Is there a way I can polish the wear and tear and make it look more presentable?

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  4. monotonous_iterancy

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    I'm not looking for an SKS, I'm looking for something better, like something I listed, that's what I'm interested in. The SKS is a dime a dozen. I'd just like to know how much you think I could sell it for, so I can add that to my price range.
     
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    I believe you can get from 3 to 4 hundred dollars if you post it for sale in the right places, where I would start, would be at survivers SKS boards. I do know that your SKS will bring more because it has a milled trigger guard and a screw in half collet barrel. ( not pinned ) I have one just like yours but in better shape, they are the older chinese norinco's. But I wouldnt sell mine for four hundred.
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    PS I would put the 10rd. stock mag. back on It If you still have It. Also check If all the numbers match That will bring more $$$.
     
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  6. monotonous_iterancy

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    Seriously? :eek: At one point I was going to give it to a relative for $80! I thought it was junk because the aftermarket mag doesn't feed right, and it's the only one I have.

    Are you sure though? Even in the condition it's in? It has some rust as you can see, and some scratching on the stock. It's not mint by any means.
     
  7. firesky101

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    Yup Chinese sks=good, Russian sks=awesome. Those are the most desirable of the common ones. If you are still feeling $80 though I, among most members here, would be happy to pay you that.
     
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    Actually, you may THINK SKS's are a dime a dozen, but mine has at least tripled in value since I bought it in the early 90's....for $100 bucks, new in the cosmoline. You aren't going to find many...if any guns...that increase in value so quickly, and most "using-grade" guns do well to hold their value, and few actually increase in value. You might be able to buy a lever action .357 for example, but after shoooting it a bit, you'd be lucky to get your money back out of it, let alone make anything on it, IMO. I'd hang on to the SKS, as its not going to depreciate, and will be worth more as a trade....if you're set on doing so....in a few years. They have done nothing but go up in price since the 90's
     
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    I regret trading my paratrooper sks... big time...
     
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    Interesting. If that's true, then maybe I'll hang on to mine. I got it about 3 years ago, paid $375. All these years I thought I got burned. I guess it just needs to be reverted to a standard mag? Is there a way I can make it look nicer without hurting the value?

    I'm leaning towards the Mauser. It's not like those are going to be around forever. I read an article a few years ago about how there's getting to be fewer and fewer of them. Do they hold value? I'd like a gun that will last my whole life, and then some.
     
  12. Kyle88

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    You did get burned then IMO... Now though, it is still high, but not unreasonable at 375. That is about all I could get out of my Paratrooper and those are pretty rare... Just keep it lightly oiled when not in use so you don't get any rust developing. I would recommend just leaving it as it is cosmetically, but put it back to original configuration and clean it.

    Why a mauser?
     
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    It already has some rust.

    Because they're reliable, they have some history behind them, and I thought they were getting rarer.

    What would you recommend?
     
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    take some rem oil, put it on the rusty spots and then take some 0000 steel wool and rub the rust out, it wont take much to get it out. Once it is gone, just keep it lightly oiled.

    I hear yuh on the mauser, they are pretty cool and have had one heck of a history. My opinion though, if you are wanting a something you feel like you can regularly shoot, find something a little bit newer. A remington 700 will fit your bill of holding its value with time, plus it is like a lego set, aftermarket parts and replacement parts are overly abundant. It is just a LITTLE bit higher than your current budget, but it would be worth it.

    If you are wanting a "keep sake" of sorts, then a mauser would be great. The only thing you will want to consider is the ammo situation with those. Mosin Nagant m44s are going up in value as we speak. They are in the 250 range now, but they have gone up probably 30% in the last year or so...
     
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    You mean a Mosin carbine? I already have a full size mosin. There's a store by me that has an M44.

    Does anyone think that I should sell my trash hi-cap magazine for whatever it's worth, $5 maybe, and buy a proper SKS mag?
     
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    Correct. If it looks like it is good shape and the price is right, it wouldn't be a bad pick. Plus ammo for it is crazy cheap.
     
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    Yes most of the high cap sks mags were trash to begin with. The standard fixed 10 round is dead reliable, and it just looks right.
     
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    Is $5 a fair price for it then?

    For some reason, I'm still leaning towards the Mauser though. It's quite the quandary. Unless there's another gun anyone would like to recommend.
     
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    If I were you I would take it to the next gun show. Find someone with a table full of parts and see if you cant trade straight across for a fixed mag.
     
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    Today I went to the store and found two Yugoslavian M48 8mm Mausers. Priced at $250, and $275. Both seemed to be in very good condition.

    I also found an M44 Mosin for $250, that the owner told me was unissued. It looked like it still had cosmoline on it. I already have a regular Mosin though.

    I also looked at ammo. the 8mm was a little pricey, the 7.62x54r was either about $5 for a brick of surplus ammo, or $11 for a box of soft point hunting ammo.

    I didn't find any SKS magazines.

    Which is the better deal?
     
  21. denton

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    Of course, what the best gun is for you depends on how you intend to use it.

    My Russian SKS is a safe queen. It only gets shot when one of my grandsons wants to try it out. When I bought it, cheap ammo was $.08 per round so it was essentially an adult 10-22. That's no longer the case. With 3-4 MOA accuracy it's not a good target rifle and with 123 grain bullets it's not a great hunting rifle. That doesn't mean it's useless. But I have better alternatives for the possible applications. I really doubt that they will continue to appreciate as they have in the past. For a time, the market was flooded with them, and that depressed prices.

    My lever action 357 gets a lot more use. It's basically a 2 MOA machine, it's a lot of fun to use, and it's probably capable for deer at 125 yards. I shoot cast lead bullets that I buy locally for $.05. For the kids, I load 38 Special. It is more than capable of overpenetrating a .005" thick piece of paper, which is mainly what I use it for. The downside is that one day at the range I got referred to as "that old guy with the John Wayne rifle." Old?? Harrrummph! They are fun and they are super cheap to shoot if you reload.

    Certainly the most popular rifles these days is the AR-15 platform. 5.56/223 is a mild cartridge, fun to shoot, and not overly expensive. I can reload them for around $17/100. If you're shooting for fun, they are a very good choice.

    Mausers are wonderful old machines. You can get a Yugo in very nice condition for around $200. With Mojo sights ($70), they are a good hunting machine, and they have a real sense of history. If you load to the cartridge's full potential, it's right along in the neighborhood of the 30-06. The good news is that it's a good cartridge for moose, bear, and anything smaller, and that they tend to be around 2 MOA machines. The bad news is that after you shoot 15-20 rounds at the range, it won't be fun anymore.

    If I had to pick one rifle to do everything, from target shooting to hunting elk, I'd look seriously at a good used bolt action in 7mm-08. You can shoot all day at the range without punishing your shoulder, and they are very suitable for big game. When all is said and done, you have something that will serve many purposes and that will gain value over time.
     
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    The Mausers are better rifles than the Mosins. The M44 is about a 4 MOA machine. However, it does make a real good bang around truck gun. No matter what you do to it, it won't look any more ugly.

    I recently paid $200 for a Yugo 24/47. That's a better than average deal. More recently, I paid $130 for another one. That's an unusually good deal. $250 is not out of reach. $275 sounds a little high. The Yugos cannot be converted to 30-06 or 270, which is what a lot of people want to do with Mausers. If you're not doing a conversion, that is to your benefit.
     
  23. monotonous_iterancy

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    My hang up is the cost of 8mm. I'm not a reloader. The M44 I can exchange some parts with my full size Mosin, but I hear that they kick hard, and that they're very loud.
     
  24. bugmania

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    My SKS seems to be the same setup you have. The mag I have feeds OK but I bought a couple of Tapco mags and have never had a problem with them. I got the 20 round ones. IIRC they were about $20 each.

    If you are still wanting a revolver you can get a Ruger GP100 blued (stainless is more) from Bud's for probably just over $100 bucks more than your $444 delivered after transfer fee. Save up $100 more, it'll be worth it.
     
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    Tapco, are those polymer?

    I'm not interested in a revolver anymore, those guns I saw today were just too nice.
     
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