Guns Insurance Policy.

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If1HitU

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My daughter said to me daddy you know you have almost $ 20,000 worth of guns you need some insurance on them just in case something happen to them. So I would like some opinions about the cost of a policy for the price of guns I own now,and what insurance company sell gun policy? Opinions please would be appreciated.Thanks
 
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...what insurance company sell gun policy?

Check with the company that writes your homeowner's insurance policy. You can probably add a rider to cover your guns for a surprisingly small amount.

The value of my guns is less than the limit for guns and jewelry under my homeowner's policy, so I don't have a separate rider. I do have a rider for my computer server farm. $3,000 of coverage on it costs about $9 a year. And it doesn't live in a gun safe, either.
 
I have a rider on my homeowner's insurance policy. Same for my wife's jewelry.
 
With that investment you should have coverage, I have less and it's covered by collect insure. Homeowners wasn't going to work for me because I didn't want serial # on file.
 
I want to thank you all for your feed back about the Insurance,I asked for your opinions on thanks again!
 
I always see various suggestions for firearms insurance in gun forums, but I don't think I have ever read any feedback in those threads regarding CLAIMS.

Insurance companies are great when cashing your premium check, but the claims dept is where things can get sketchy or downright irritating.

Does anyone on here have anything to offer regarding actual claims being paid out?
 
Claims are paid based on the type of coverage you have. Two things are involved: the type of coverage (eg "all risk" or "named perils"), and values (eg "Replacement Cost" or "actual Cash Value ). Replacement Cost coverage gives the best dollar amount of coverage, as no depreciation is involved.

You need proof of both the existence of the item (photos of you holding them), and the value (purchase invoices or appraisals). Many policies limit valuation to a percentage of the total insured amount, unless you have a specific rider on that item (usually high valued items). Many companies do not request serial numbers, except on the specifically described high value items.

Claims payments vary by company. Some will hold off until the latest statutory date for making payment, while others pay as soon as all info is received. Your agent should be able to give you names for referrals of others who have had claims (not always firearms claims, as those are not frequent).

Above based on 33 years as an agent (working in the clients best interest).
 
I was told by my agent(Amfam) that replacement doesn't mean replaced guns are identical, instead a model12 could be replaced by a cheap pump.

If I want my BSS coved to its value that requires a rider pics and serial# on file.
 
I always see various suggestions for firearms insurance in gun forums, but I don't think I have ever read any feedback in those threads regarding CLAIMS.

Insurance companies are great when cashing your premium check, but the claims dept is where things can get sketchy or downright irritating.

Does anyone on here have anything to offer regarding actual claims being paid out?

Claims are paid based on the type of coverage you have. Two things are involved: the type of coverage (eg "all risk" or "named perils"), and values (eg "Replacement Cost" or "actual Cash Value ). Replacement Cost coverage gives the best dollar amount of coverage, as no depreciation is involved.

You need proof of both the existence of the item (photos of you holding them), and the value (purchase invoices or appraisals). Many policies limit valuation to a percentage of the total insured amount, unless you have a specific rider on that item (usually high valued items). Many companies do not request serial numbers, except on the specifically described high value items.

Claims payments vary by company. Some will hold off until the latest statutory date for making payment, while others pay as soon as all info is received. Your agent should be able to give you names for referrals of others who have had claims (not always firearms claims, as those are not frequent).

Above based on 33 years as an agent (working in the clients best interest).


I appreciate your input, but I'm looking for feedback from any member that has personally gone through the claims process and how it actually worked out for them. Were they thrilled with the outcome...or not so much?

Were their claims actually paid out as they had anticipated...or was it like pulling teeth with an underwriter / adjuster trying to chip away at the value of said claim.

Actual, real world feedback is what I'm wondering about.
 
I was told by my agent(Amfam) that replacement doesn't mean replaced guns are identical, instead a model12 could be replaced by a cheap pump.
Your agent is saying they could meet their obligation by, for example, replacing a $150,000 BMW 760 with a $20,000 Ford Fusion or a mansion in a ritzy neighborhood with a shack in the ghetto. I find that hard to believe. According to my State Farm agent, replacement means the exact same model or, if it's no longer available, the nearest match.

Gunbroker has several Winchester Model 12 shotguns for sale at prices ranging from $200 to $25,000. Even something as common as a Remington 870 ranges from $150 to $500. It's best to pay for a professional appraisal of a gun's value and insure it for that amount. If it's collectible, keep up with changing prices so you don't find yourself underinsured.
 
Were their claims actually paid out as they had anticipated...or was it like pulling teeth with an underwriter / adjuster trying to chip away at the value of said claim.
I can't speak for guns but we have had no arguments from State Farm on claims for automobiles and house damage. After a teenager ran a red light and totaled a fairly old car, State Farm asked me how much I wanted. I gave them a generous estimate of the price of a good one off a used car lot plus taxes. They paid up without complaint. (I suspect they were relieved not to be on the hook for medical bills.) Two years ago, a hail storm took out our roof. The State Farm adjuster added things like dinged gutters and outdoor light fixtures without being prompted. I don't remember if he hand wrote a check to serve as a down payment for our contractor or if one came via mail in a few days. They paid the balance promptly after the work was completed.
 
Your agent is saying they could meet their obligation by, for example, replacing a $150,000 BMW 760 with a $20,000 Ford Fusion or a mansion in a ritzy neighborhood with a shack in the ghetto. I find that hard to believe. According to my State Farm agent, replacement means the exact same model or, if it's no longer available, the nearest match.

Gunbroker has several Winchester Model 12 shotguns for sale at prices ranging from $200 to $25,000. Even something as common as a Remington 870 ranges from $150 to $500. It's best to pay for a professional appraisal of a gun's value and insure it for that amount. If it's collectible, keep up with changing prices so you don't find yourself underinsured.
Don't know about cars but that's what he told me about guns, replacement was for fire damage theft was capped at $1500.

It was simpler just to total my costs add 20% then get a policy from collect insure, I'm not talking high value but I want to be able to cover my needs in the event of theft
 
Most homeowners have a very low cap for theft. All other losses are covered by your personal property coverage.
 
I had a rifle stolen from a camper at a deer lease. At the time (and now as well) I had USAA insurance. Since I had a rider on my policy, the deductible portion didn't apply. They contacted me about a replacement but I had already found one in a pawn shop and purchased it. They cut a check and sent it to me. This in the days before email was common. Total time from filing to check about a month.
 
Don't know about cars but that's what he told me about guns, replacement was for fire damage theft was capped at $1500.

It was simpler just to total my costs add 20% then get a policy from collect insure, I'm not talking high value but I want to be able to cover my needs in the event of theft
This is something everyone should discuss with his insurance agent to make sure he has the coverage he wants. My wife's jewelry and musical instruments are not covered by our homeowner's policy. For them, our agent sold us a separate "personal articles" policy that provides for repair or replacement with like kind up to their appraised value regardless of the cause.
 
If you are a USAA member, check out a rider for the guns and any other high dollar items you might have.

Thanks for the suggestion Bbear, just took care of it with USAA, it was slightly less expensive than Collector's.
 
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