wyocarp
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I totally disagree. The "20" calls from concerned mothers will help cement in the police officers minds that, YES, this is legal, and it will help the mothers to understand that not everyone with a gun is a criminal.
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I totally disagree. The "20" calls from concerned mothers will help cement in the police officers minds that, YES, this is legal, and it will help the mothers to understand that not everyone with a gun is a criminal.
svaz
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I understand the calls not to pre-judge, but frankly, we learn to dress to impress in high school and never really out grow it. We dress as we wish to be seen. This guy obviously wanted to send off the bad-ass biker dude vibes and it seems he succeeded.
If you want to dress to a stereotype, don't be surprised when you are assumed to be, and treated like, the stereotype.
Actually, I think this would look worse on "bikers" than on "gunners".
Keep the rubber-side down.
If you want to dress to a stereotype, don't be surprised when you are assumed to be, and treated like, the stereotype.
Actually, I think this would look worse on "bikers" than on "gunners".
Keep the rubber-side down.
bigfatdave
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When they are told by the 911 operator to stop being ninnies and not to waste anyone's time calling in a legal activity.
daehawc
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I carry in this same manner quite often, not because I want to be seen in any specific way but because its hot and sometimes your shirt rides up (my gun is in a holster though).
I hate the statement that carrying and wearing protective gear are the same thing. Wearing gear is a personal choice to prevent injury during an 'accident.' Carrying a gun is a choice to protect the lives of me and mine against a violent miscreant.
I fully understand that many things I do may kill me or leave me injured and I can accept that and train my self accordingly. I refuse however, to allow myself to be at the mercy of the dredges of society and rely on their good will to allow me or my family to go home alive at the end of the day.
I hate the statement that carrying and wearing protective gear are the same thing. Wearing gear is a personal choice to prevent injury during an 'accident.' Carrying a gun is a choice to protect the lives of me and mine against a violent miscreant.
I fully understand that many things I do may kill me or leave me injured and I can accept that and train my self accordingly. I refuse however, to allow myself to be at the mercy of the dredges of society and rely on their good will to allow me or my family to go home alive at the end of the day.
76shuvlinoff
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Many of those"bad-ass biker" dudes are some of the greatest most open minded people you'll ever meet. Most of them are reluctant to judge a book by it's cover and most wouldn't care how someone else judges them.
Try those apes chrome and color on for size and get some wind in your face, it broadens your perspective.
As for the method of carry, probably not the best choice even in a 3 piece suit.
Try those apes chrome and color on for size and get some wind in your face, it broadens your perspective.
As for the method of carry, probably not the best choice even in a 3 piece suit.
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76shuvlinoff
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I believe the point is that by hiding sidearms for many years now they are deemed unacceptable, shocking, and offensive to the "civilized" non carrying folks around us.
Harley Rider 55
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"I understand the calls not to pre-judge, but frankly, we learn to dress to impress in high school and never really out grow it."
In the early 70's, high school students dressed how they were told, not to impress. Now, nobody tells me how to dress.
In the early 70's, high school students dressed how they were told, not to impress. Now, nobody tells me how to dress.
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I would NEVER ride a bike, horse or 4 wheeler with a gun attatched to my belt anywhere behind the hip or slung across my back. Your chances of going down on a bike are much greater than your chances of getting into a gun fight and if you land on that three pound chunk of steel it could mean instiant paralisis. I would choose an IPSC style holster with a reverse cant carried forward of the hip. It would much easier to conceal on a bike because people behind you could not see it, and if you did take a spill it would not be between your spine and the pavement.
TexasRifleman
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As mentioned, for many years only dishonest people "hid" guns. Law abiding citizens had nothing to hide so they wore them out in public.
MCgunner
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Sounds like a punk, probably not a permit holder. People who carry legally most times know the importance of a good holster. Just a guess you understand, but that's what it sounds like to me. I pocket carry most times, do have a tuckable. On the bike, though, I'm usually just pocket carrying a 9x19 Kel Tec. See no need for more and it is easy to conceal that way.
You just described half the guys that I ride with... well, you described what they look like on the weekends. Yup! You described a Public Defender, a Prosecutor, a Bailiff, a Stock Broker, a Dentist, and two CPA's... You see, as the Bike culture has become accepted by the general public, and have become "main stream cool", you really can't judge a book by its cover. Look at the Discovery Channel shows; American Chopper, Biker Build Off, etc. Miami Ink, L.A. Ink... Bikes, Choppers, Tattoos; These things have moved from the "wrong side of the tracks" to Main St. Doctors, Lawyers, CPAs, Moms... All now have found a love of things previously taboo. Don't judge a book by its cover.
On the Open Carry thing... I just think it's dumb unless you are in woods or in a rural area. If I ever need to use my pistol to defend my self, I would prefer my attacker to not know that I was packing. Sure, carrying in the open may deter an attacker, having him move on to easier pray, but if he could see the gun on my hip, and was determined... He may just shoot (or stab, or whatever) first. After all its easier to take a wallet off of a dead guy. Plus, a gun would fetch a few hundred bucks minimum, more than the cash that most people carry around every day in their wallet.
P.S. Its not usually the guy on a bike with a gun that you need worry about. Its the one with the ball-peen hammer that means business.
MCgunner
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Well, you'd think doctors and lawyers could afford something from Milt Sparks....
That's why I figure it was a punk, one percenter, whatever. Yes, they do exist. Not everybody rides with da Wild Hawgs.
That's why I figure it was a punk, one percenter, whatever. Yes, they do exist. Not everybody rides with da Wild Hawgs. - Status
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