greyhound
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Seems like lately I hear a lot of politicians (mostly Democrats but not all) stating something to the effect that "while I support existing gun laws, I don't want to take guns taken away from hunters and sportsman". Am I the only one who sees these sort of statements as basically saying that owning a gun for self defense is not a valid reason for gun ownership?
At least from the folks on the gun forums, though we like to shoot in competitions and hunt, it seems that the main reason we have guns is for the defense of us and our families, either from the government or the predators out there.
I see this as nothing but an attempt to keep repeating this line over and over again until it is beaten into a mostly uncaring populace. Most people in this country are neither for or against guns, and they are the ones the powers that be are trying to sway.
Five years ago I never thought I'd believe this, so its quite a shock. I don't even think its all really about guns - its about the individual and his right to determine his own destiny, i.e. protect himself. I think the attitude that the government needs all the power over its citizens pervades through all levels of government - from the Democratic presidential candidates, to the Governor of Missouri who ignored the public's mandate, to the sheriff in Minnesota who doesn't want CCW and so signs his permits with "sub recuso" (under protest) next to his signature.
I don't really know what we can do about it, either. Though I am glad post 9/11 that Mr. Bush is the President, as far as "nanny-statism" goes I don't think Republicans are much better than Democrats. I guess its the old metaphor about boiling the frog slowly; its been straight downhill since 1965 or so. And 22 months later I guess I finally have to give up hope that 9/11 would be a permanent wake up call to the U.S., as opposed to a 2 month patriotic outpouring. The tattered, forgotten flags in my neighborhood speak to that. If that wasn't bad enough, every day when I go to work I walk past a shop that still has a yellowed, torn, sunfaded, newspaper insert of the flag with "September 11, we will never forget" on it. I just shake my head ruefully.
Sorry this post rambles about many things....I need to go hug my dog now!
At least from the folks on the gun forums, though we like to shoot in competitions and hunt, it seems that the main reason we have guns is for the defense of us and our families, either from the government or the predators out there.
I see this as nothing but an attempt to keep repeating this line over and over again until it is beaten into a mostly uncaring populace. Most people in this country are neither for or against guns, and they are the ones the powers that be are trying to sway.
Five years ago I never thought I'd believe this, so its quite a shock. I don't even think its all really about guns - its about the individual and his right to determine his own destiny, i.e. protect himself. I think the attitude that the government needs all the power over its citizens pervades through all levels of government - from the Democratic presidential candidates, to the Governor of Missouri who ignored the public's mandate, to the sheriff in Minnesota who doesn't want CCW and so signs his permits with "sub recuso" (under protest) next to his signature.
I don't really know what we can do about it, either. Though I am glad post 9/11 that Mr. Bush is the President, as far as "nanny-statism" goes I don't think Republicans are much better than Democrats. I guess its the old metaphor about boiling the frog slowly; its been straight downhill since 1965 or so. And 22 months later I guess I finally have to give up hope that 9/11 would be a permanent wake up call to the U.S., as opposed to a 2 month patriotic outpouring. The tattered, forgotten flags in my neighborhood speak to that. If that wasn't bad enough, every day when I go to work I walk past a shop that still has a yellowed, torn, sunfaded, newspaper insert of the flag with "September 11, we will never forget" on it. I just shake my head ruefully.
Sorry this post rambles about many things....I need to go hug my dog now!