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Guns rusting...HELP!!!

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by dispatch55126, Nov 6, 2007.

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  1. dispatch55126

    dispatch55126 Member

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    I keep my guns in my closet cased. I pulled one of them out tonight to put something away and noticed surface rust. I opened my other cases and they all had rust. I was able to wipe it off with Barricade but what can I do to prevent this in the future.

    I am very anal about keeping my guns clean so any blemish like this drives me nuts. I cannot afford a gun safe. They are all out of their cases now and oiled down, but is there anything else I can/should do. Thanks.
     
  2. robmkivseries70

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    Hi Dispatch,
    Sorry to hear that, put them in a closet with a sturdy lock. They need the air flow around them.
    Best,
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  3. kennedy

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    where in minn, I heard it was real dry up north, when I lived up there, had no problems as long as in a well ventilated closet, I now live in southern Ind with bad humidity and use a home built gun cabinet, and keep them well oiled, no problems.
     
  4. pete f

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    gun cases are not for storage, if you need to stack them closely then get some of those silicon treated sleeves sorta like a loosely woven sock, keeps the nicks away while keeping the air moving.

    Also, are you leaving them lubed in the closet, or are you wiping them so dry as to remove all oil?

    Also living in minnesota like I am, there is weather to consider, warm days and cool nights allows condensation to form, check your closet, you may find an airleak that allows a breeze with damp outside air to hit your guns.
     
  5. wisocki

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    Do not store guns in cases! keep the surfaces oiled. I to live in minnesota. You should get a dehumidifier.
     
  6. dispatch55126

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    There is a window in the closet, basement closet, that I will be sealing off next spring. In the meantime I've already put plastic over the windows. I wipe everything down with a silicon cloth after I oil everything. The closet is also subdivided and the area where I kept the guns was always cooler than every place else. I've since removed the inner door to keep things more even temp.

    Since I'm not going to case them anymore, does anyone have any plans for a gun rack I can hang on the wall which will hold the guns horizontally?
     
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    I put car wax on them (s2000) just whip it on polish it off.... never had a problem since then! I was actually given the vice by a THR member. And my gun had the blueing removed and rusted super quickly... this solved that.
     
  8. dispatch55126

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    The wax would make sense for seasonal storage. Does it matter what type of wax, Carnuba or one of the newer types?
     
  9. The Deer Hunter

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    Just lean them up against a corner in your closet like the rest of us po' folk and oil them every once in a while.
     
  10. doc2rn

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    I use CLP it worked for me in rain, ocean water, and jungle humidity in the military. My point is it works, but rain dance car wax also works if you are putting them up for the season, just be sure to Q-Tip out the writing engraved on the barrel.
     
  11. Shell Shucker

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    A "gunsafe" heater/dehumidifier such as the Golden Rod or equivalent may provide enough heat (convection air current) to solve your problem.
    RIG, rust inhibiting grease, works for me. I apply it with the RIG RAG, a sheep skin impregnated with it. Takes about a minuet and is hardly noticeable.
    Never store guns in a case.
     
  12. Don't Tread On Me

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    Having done my own salt-spray testing on about 10 oils, the best rust preventer is CLP by far.


    Don't keep them cased as the cases attract moisture and traps it in.


    Safes are not that expensive. They cost what a new firearm typically costs. Anywhere from $300-$600 will get you a good safe. Next time you go to buy a gun, don't - buy that safe.
     
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    $600 will get you a security container, not really a safe, IMO. It is still better than nothing though.
     
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    I like Bullfrog products (Lubricant and Rust Blocker where a thick oil that stays in place makes sense, Rusthunter where you want a thin liquid that dries and protects the metal).

    CLP is somewhere in between.

    That said, cased guns can rust. Don't keep them in cases. The cases hold moisture in, if there is any.

    I got some guns that had been in cases for 20 years straight and they came out fine, but a couple rusted a bit. But they were bone dry and well-oiled when they were cased. If they'd been at all damp or sweaty when they were put away, or in a damp or humid environment, they would have come out nasty.
     
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    We experimented with a few different things here along the Alaskan coast. For storage it is hard to beat a product called Boe-Shield.
    Although made for aircraft use by Boeing, it is also marketed to the snow machine and outboard craowd via Yamaha. You mightbe able to locate it at a marine or snowmachine place. It leaves a film that is very corrosion resistant. But it can still be fired without having to clean it all out.
     
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    Depends what your definition of safe is. There are models made by Granite which are gun safes in my opinion that are just under $600 (they are also firesafe). These have a heavy armored door. I'm not talking about a thin sheetmetal cabinet with a lockable knob.

    You can spend $1,500 for a gun safe and it will have no more protection than a $600 safe. Just a fancier finish and interior.

    If you want a real safe, expect to pay around $10,000 or more. And that's just for a medium sized jewlers safe. That is, armored all sides. Not very useful for storing guns due to size.

    The idea here is to defeat smash & grab burglars or just regular thug/amatuer burglars. Time is the factor. A $600 will deter them. It will waste enough of their time to where they'll give up. They won't be able to open it with the tools they brought. People get caught up believing that they need a safe that a professional safe cracker would need 2hrs with a drill and a torch to get into.


    I mean, compared to putting them in the closet so some meth junkie can just walk out with them and gun down some woman cashier at a 7-11...anything is better than nothing.
     
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    My father in law used car wax to keep his firearms rust free in Florida. He passed on to me a pre 64 Win mdl 70 in 300 H&H that is almost as nice as the day it was made. Now that he has passed I have no idea what brand of wax he used.
     
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    I keep mine the same way, but oiled, then in socks, then all my bags have VCI emitter discs in them. Puts out a freefloating vapor that adheres to all things metal.
     
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    Amsoil makes a terrific product called Metal protectant. This stuff is good. Takes rust off like nobody's business "surface rust" and protects afterward. CLP is a great rust prohibitor.
     
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    Get them out of the basement, out of the cases and out of the closet. Closets are one of the worst places you can put guns as most do not have heating or cooling ducts so the temp goes up and down.

    Fleet Farm has a safe for $89. It's not much, but better than what you have going.
     
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    lots of good advice here.. i put my rifle in a case to store it once and had the same problem as you .. mine hang on a gun rack in my bedroom now and get oiled at least monthly..
     
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    I keep my rifles in the Silicone socks in a gunsafe with Dessicant. Works well.
     
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    I keep rifles standing in the safe, but pistols in cases, oiled up and rust free, here in the hot, humid, muggy, South.

    I have been thinking of getting some of those pistol holders to put in the safe for pistols, but just have never done it. It would probably be better for them. :)
     
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    I've kept about half of them in cases, the rest in gunsocks.

    They get cleaned and oiled once a year. I'm very careful not to leave fingerprints. Desiccant packs go in the safe. House is climate controlled.

    Nevertheless, it's good advice not to keep them cased.
     
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