Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Miami_JBT, Jun 26, 2013.
Would also like to see some pistol caliber carbines in 10mm as well.
It's not a Bren-Ten, but it's an all steel 10mm based on the CZ design.
Or the same concept from Glock, minus the decocker of course.
With some of the laws headed our way in California, I've to see a more modern semiauto rifle that used a Garand-style en-block clip--maybe 10-rounders.
Also M1 Carbine-style rifles that are chambered in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, and 10mm Auto.
ETA: M1 Carbine-style rifles chambered in 7.62x25, Hi-Point carbines that accept higher-cap mags, like the Sub-2000. Also, higher-quality/less flimsy Sub-2k carbines.
lefty bolt guns for more than one or two models in the lineup...
A modern LeMat.
A functional top break revo in .45 ACP with moonclips.
Guns I want that will likely never be built:
HK45 in 10mm Auto
Civilian-legal M249 SAW
Civilian-legal VSS Vintorez 9x39mm rifle
Civilian-legal SBR AK in 9x39mm
M14-type rifle in .260 Rem, 7mm08, etc
M14-type rifle with a long-action chamber for .30-06, 300WM, etc.
Any of the precision rifles being tested in the SOCOM PSR competition, but in 7mm Rem Mag or similar fast 7 cartridge
A real civilian-legal HK G36
A properly-configured civilian-legal HK 416
New-build Colt revolvers (Python, Anaconda, etc.)
Guns I want that have potential to be built:
Civilian-available AI AS50
The FN SCAR variant being submitted for the Army trials, has a non-reciprocating charging handle
An AR-10 type rifle chambered for long-action cartridges
An AR that can consistently group 0.5 MOA or better without being so heavy its confined to the bench (huge technical challenge, but an interesting one)
A tough, reliable, accurate bullpup with multi-caliber capability and a very good trigger
A true civilian clone of the military-spec Remington ACR
Civilian-legal FN Mk.20 SSR
Civilian-legal FN Mk.17 SCAR SBR
Mossberg 500 (or Rem 870) in .45-70 or .460
Ruger "10/22" in 5.7x28 or 4.6x30
3-inch Ruger GP100 5-shot .41 Mag
I'd buy one of each.
"New-build Colt revolvers (Python, Anaconda, etc.)"
Sorry, but, no one really wants new Colts. We all know they wouldn't make 'em "like they used to" (whether or not that's in fact a detriment), and if Colt can't justify resuming production when the market rate is, what, +2000$ for a plain-jane Python, I shudder to think what they'd have to go for. Mint Colts are rapidly approaching low-end Korth territory, for Pete's sake, and I doubt anyone would claim they were made as "nicely"
Would be considered a short barreled shotgun. You could only pull it off in 410ga with rifling, but you'd be better off making it a X+1 revolver with a "double tap" on hand whenever you'd want it
"S&W New Schofield Rimfire made by S&W"
This. S&W could totally pull this off, even by contracting production to a legitimate third party (yeah, yeah, purists, whatever) like Uberti, since I'm sure they are a bit busy for "niche" products at the moment
"A functional top break revo in .45 ACP with moonclips."
Awesome. I've seen that Uberti Schofield cut for 45/clips, and it looked phenomenal. However, the Uberti is SA only, so not as preferable for the obvious duty applications it would otherwise be suited for
"M1 Carbine-style rifles that are chambered in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, and 10mm Auto."
I would absolutely LOVE for guns like this to gain the industry's attention, but I'm afraid that won't happen (at least, unless funky new gun laws like a ban on "rifle rounds" force their hand). The gas system and lockup of the M1 Carbine is so similar to that of full size caliber rifles like the M1 Rifle (and to a much lesser extent, AR, AK, etc.) in terms of production, that it'd cost just as much to make the big version, apart from a few nickles in raw stock. And it's a whole lot easier to sell a bigger gun than a smaller gun at the same price
Instead of pining for what will never be, I'm working on a design that I hope negates much of the added cost of a true locked breech with its stupid-simple tube-gun construction. The goal is a <12" locked-breech carbine (not counting barrel or stock) under 5lbs empty that uses PPSH41 mags/drums, chamber-able in anything from 22TCM and 9mm through 10mm and 45ACP (switchable barrels is a design goal, as well). I hope to emulate the functionality (minus fun-switch) of the PPSH, but in a much smaller/lighter package like the M1. Would there be any takers? I'd assume not, for the price it would have to go for (probably ~500$ minumum, after making initial costs back)
So you see, there's no need for us to merely "wish" for The Industry to deliver what we want; if we make it for ourselves, they'll have no choice but to adapt to our desires
Hey there buddy, this thread isn't called "Guns you would buy that will never be made" because our ideas are feasible and marketable!
If I could have proof that this wasn't just vaporware, or an actual functioning copy, I would be into this idea 100%. I love pistol caliber carbines, and being able to have one that takes a range of calibers sounds awesome.
If I had the ability to do so, I would have made every one of the guns on my wishlist. Maybe someday. Maybe.
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