Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by LJ-MosinFreak-Buck, Sep 29, 2008.
I'm going to be looking for milsurps. What should I look for if I find one that I like?
That's a pretty open ended question...
What do you like??? Auto, bolt action??? By Milsurps, are you limiting your search for guns or is buying ammo a priority? How about items like scopes and other accessories? Camo or OD Green cloths? Body armor???
Just a few things to look for...
Buy any Mauser you can find for less than $150.00
The action alone will be worth it when you tire of shooting it in its issued state.
Yeah I'm looking for a bolt or a semi auto that's fairly cheap.
Good bore, no mods, a finish that isn't too shiny, no obvious cracks or severe stock damage. Pretty basic "how clean does it look", so long as it doesn't look suspiciously so.
okay thanks. I was thinking that either an Enfield or Mauser from ww2. Which would be a better choice?
That's a hard decision. I am not really into the milsurp gun world, but I am fortunate to shoot at a range with alot of friendly shooters that are. That gives me a chance to try those guns out.
I would say go with the mauser just because most of my modern bolt guns have so much copied from that design. They must have done something right if manufactureres are still copying that design.
Still those enfields are fun, and quick for a bolt action.
I think it is just going to come down to you, and your own personal preference.
More Mosins. What else is there?
In my opinion, the faster action on the Enfield is a little bit more fun but the Mauser has a "cooler" feel (a combination of the fact that it's a "Darth Vader" gun and has a classic action). Comes down to personal preference. If you like milsurps, you'll eventually end up with both anyhow...
Personally, I'd get a Mauser while they're still relatively cheap (let's ignore the fact that serious collectors frown on Russian captures - with a little bit of work they look and act the part, so who cares?). The Enfield market is already pretty mature. Also, the surplus ammo market for both types is getting tapped out but 8mm is still more readily available.
Montgomery, AL Gunshow
I stopped by the Gunshow in Montgomery two weeks ago, and they had some great deals.
I was saving for a CMP Garand (ordered) but I cam Mighty close to buying a Lee-Enfield #5 Jungle Carbine for $450.
I bought some .308 on stripper clips and was heading out when I found a Lee-Enfield No.4 Mark III that had been butchered (sporterized) for $125. He said I could have it for $100.
I resisted and ordered the Garand.
After reading your "sig. line",i'd say get a nice Russian 91/30.
Don't pay more then $100 out the door for it. If you have the cash
find a Finnish M39.
I don't own a Mauser (yet) but I absolutely love my Enfield. It was a spur of the moment purchase that I've never regretted. I named it Nigel.
Actually I was just getting around to thinking about getting another Mosin. I want an M91/30 and an M38
So what're ya waiting for?
The gunshow to open, hehe.
So here's on my list of looks:
K31's are pretty cool, I'm a little biased as I just bought one. Apparently the supply is drying up so now might be the time to pounce if you can get a good price on one.
It sounds stupid , but dont be afraid to ask if you or they can run a bore swab. If it comes out nasty ...... Chances are if its surplus it fired corosive ammo at some point , and if its dirty you might want to assume there may be some defects you cant see in that lighting.
Every milsurp has fired corrosive at one point or another, with the exception of very late Korean war M1 rifles, most M-1 carbines, and K-31s.
Very good point, Vaarok.
I think if you (LJ-MosinFreak-Buck) find a K31 for a good price, go for it. Same for a Finn Mosin. If you find both for a good price--well, you know what the standard High Road response would be!
The Yugoslavian M24/47 is a great deal besides Mosin's if the bargain is what you are looking for.You can get a good to very very good condition one in the mid hundred dollar range.
I got one last month,was real impressed with it at the range,so much I bought another more minty one 2 weeks ago.
Sooner or latter I plan on adding a M48 or 2 to my milsurp collection pile.
id go with the mauser just because there seam to be a better demand for them if you find a k98 for less than 200 or even 250 with a good barrel and stock id hop on it right away
Knowing you're a Mosin freak, I'd go for a Finn M39. It will make you rethink everything you thought about Mosins, even if you liked them to start with. If that rifle was made today it would cost well over $1000.
I do have a K31, and it's quality is freaking amazing. I fell in love with it when I handled it at the gunshop I got it at.
An Finnish Mosin is actually on my "To Get Before I Die" list, and I should probably pounce on it now, but it probably won't be at this show unless I can find a good one for relatively cheap. Jeez, what wouldI do if I had a million bucks to spend? I'd clear out the whole show. Maybe.
My advice is to save your money for a little longer and get a Finn. If you go to http://www.gunsnammo.com/ they have some really cheap deals on Finns, sometimes well below $200. If you buy one of the antique receivered ones you don't even need to have a license, just be over 21.
If you ever make it over to Lincoln let me know and I'll let you shoot my Finn. You'll be hooked.
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