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Guy open carries an AK, stopped breifly by cops.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by FourteenMiles, Feb 27, 2011.

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  1. FourteenMiles

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    Here is an interesting video. Apparently this guy was denied a CCL, so he decided to open carry an AK in protest.

    Here is 9 minutes into the clip when the cops arrive:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUd_00Xrf_U&t=9m

    *Some inappropriate language may be heard in parts of this clip.
     
  2. Spec ops Grunt

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    Seen this before, guy seems to be making an <deleted> out of himself for no reason.
     
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    I have to applaud the man's courage for open carrying an AK on a main street in a city. And while he could have been a bit less curt with the officers, overall I think that encounter went alright. It would have been better if the officer just parked nearby, observed for any threatening or illegal behavior, and then waved and left. The bottom line is that the officers didn't have to engage the man in a difficult conversation, so I don't blame the man for being a bit irate.


    I'm honestly amazed he's only been stopped twice out of "hundreds of times" he's done this, if that's true. Testament to the professionalism of the local police department.
     
  5. Unknown777

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    Perhaps a group of people could get together and do this.
     
  6. FC

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    Pretty funny stuff there, he really flustered the first cop when he didn't consent to handing over ID for walking down the street.
     
  7. cassandrasdaddy

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    another poster child

    why was our, well your , hero denied?
     
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    Is this Kwikrnu?

    That guy is awesome (and the guy in the video) and I support them 100%.

    The only thing people might find weird is that it looks like he's talking to himself. hahaha Imagine the looks on their faces!
     
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    He has a strong message and I'm glad he stuck up for his rights. However, I would have given the cop my ID and then continued to argue about my rights, instead of giving the cop a "hard time."

    Better yet, I would have a copy of the state statue/law reguarding open carry and presented it to the officer at the time of the encounter.
     
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    I personally thought the video was pretty funny. They really didnt have a reason to stop him.

    Why did his CCL get denied?
     
  11. Apex29

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    Yeah, it's really going to help his CCW application.
     
  12. FC

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    No idea but it can't be much of a reason if he is still allowed to own firearms.
     
  13. InkEd

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    Congrats for him knowing AND using his rights as a citizen.
     
  14. FourteenMiles

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    Huh? Who called him a hero?

    Anyways... I don't know, but not all places in the US are shall issue. In my state some CLEOs just won't issue CCLs to a mere citizen
     
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    anybody have any idea what state this guy is in?

    as far as him open carrying the ak, i say good for him for having the guts to do it and the knowledge of his rights to back it up. he made one Very good point while talking to the LEOs, "yeah it makes people nervous, but the only way they will ever be not nervous is for them to see it and get used to it" (or something to that effect). very true! while concealed carry has a tactical advantage, if open carry were to become common place, it would carry the advantage of framiliarizing the public with the legality of civilians carrying weapons to defend themselves.
     
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    Cool!

    If I'm not doing something illegal, and I am not somewhere that requires me to hand over ID to cops, I'm not showing my ID card. Worth noting that some places only require you to verbally ID yourself. (Does not apply in a traffic stop.)

    It is a general principle sort of thing. If a cop shows up asking to see inside my house, I'll ask to see a warrant. If he wants to talk, I'll step outside, and close the door. Polite, but don't hand everything to a cop on a silver platter.
     
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    People like this are exactly what we don't need. We're trying to normalize the idea of carry and get people used to the idea of citizens carrying handguns. Then this guy, as did Kwikniru go and walk around with a AK-47 on his back. That doesn't do anything productive, it just scares people. Here in Michigan, a guy brought a AR-15 to a MOC meeting at a Lansing steakhouse. Someone called the cops and you have some five squad cars and a few hours delay. Some chucklesucker carries a shotgun on his back through a Lansing library, and the city gets a damn restraining order out against MOC and it's affiliates.

    I agree that the OC of long guns should be a legally defensible option. However, this is not damn Switzerland, and the fight is still far too young for the OC of long-guns to be anything other than damaging to the cause.
     
  18. xcgates

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    I am an American, what do I have on me?

    Wallet
    Cell phone
    handgun
    pocket knife
    notepad
    pen
    rifle
    sunglasses
    hat
    etc...

    I do, however, see this heading the same way many discussions on open-carry go.
     
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    Yeah verily, how tremendously uncouth and culturally tone-deaf of him. Clearly he doth act the fool in public, and to an audience composed of no less than ye local constabulary.
     
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    He does seem to know his rights and what the laws are but if that were here in my home state of delaware (where open carry is also legal) his attitude would have been more than enough to have him take a trip in

    If he would just let his brains be his guide and not his smart mouth I think he would get alot further with his goal but thats just my 2 cents YMMV
     
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    The guy is obviously doing it because he was denied a ccw. If he does in fact live in a state where he must obtain LEO consent for a permit, the attitude he demonstrated in the video will do nothing to aid his cause. I think the cops were very professional and handled the situation well enough considering that the attitude ratio was 95 percent him to 5 percent from them.
     
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    I keep seeing people talking about the the guy carrying the Ak's attitude and I can't figure it out. He is legal to carry as he was and the LEO that stopped him was in the wrong, stopping and requesting ID just for carrying a gun is a no-no. The guy simply asked for the reason for the stop and declined to hand off ID at that point, the LEO responded by beginning a lecture.

    Is there some reason that I don't know of that I would be required to listen to someone whine about something they didn't like? Sounds to me if they wanted to save themselves some trouble the local LE would go out of their way to get his concealed license sorted out.
     
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    My take on this:

    1) He is well within his rights to open carry his AK.
    2) In terms of common sense that is, well, a plain stupid idea.

    Why?

    1) AKs are known by most Americans as a "terrorist" weapon thanks to video games, movies and the media.
    2) There is no sensical reason to walk around town openly carrying an assault rifle.
    3) It scares the hell out of a lot of people, and I'd be very suspicious of anyone walking around with an AK.
     
  24. InkEd

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    First cop tried and failed at bullying him. Second cop handled the situation well. Citizen knew and took advantage of the law. I hope they grant him his cww.
     
  25. InkEd

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    However, I do agree he would better prove his point by wearing a pistol rather than a rifle. I wonder if his wife gets teased when he visits her at work?
     
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