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H.Clinton again shows true colors regarding firearms..

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  1. bg

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    Clinton signs on for more anti-gun bills..>
    http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/61903.htm

    Please...:rolleyes:

    Really no surprise here. It's just the tip-toeing that
    reeks..
     
  2. Lone_Gunman

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    George W. Bush supports the Assault Weapons Ban also. I suspect he and Hillary are working together on this.
     
  3. ArmedBear

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    Well this is interesting, if you think about it.

    If you make a database of weapons used in crimes public, it will show:

    1. "Assault weapons" are seldom used in crimes.
    2. Guns are not used in the majority of crimes, even violent crimes.
    3. People kill each other, daily, with a lot of things, including their bare hands.

    How does this bolster the gun grabbers' cause?

    Or do I misunderstand the nature of the database?

    BTW Hillary has "called for" a lot of things, sometimes contradictory things and within days of each other. What I find amazing is the core group of people who love Hillary for no discernable reason. What about her is trustworthy or remotely likeable, no matter what your ideology?
     
  4. longeyes

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    All in the family.
     
  5. Ira Aten

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    Quote from Armed Bear
    "What about her is trustworthy or remotely likeable, no matter what your ideology?

    From a human standpoint, nothing. But for the Leftist Globalist Villagers, she is a perfect representative. She is a tool for the upcoming United Nations Small ArmsTreaty, and they love her condescending attitude toward the rapidly disappearing American culture.

    Further, nobody will push socialism for them better than Hillary once she gets a national spotlight to make the "right of medical treatment and long term care" available to everyone, regardless national origin. After all, every Iranian, Mexican, or Palastinian citizen needs good health care, and they just can't get it at home.

    And if someone is of the belief that children should be expelled from a school for carrying a bible into a classroom because it "offended" a Muslim, she is their dream candidate.

    So to those who want the worst thing possible for the evil, mean spirited country of the United States, she represents the culture of caring.

    Me, I don't much care for her myself.
     
  6. geekWithA.45

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    That is a preposterous statement.
     
  7. Langenator

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    How, exactly, would this accomplish anything at all? By the way the statement is worded, "make public a national database," it would seem to imply that such a database exists, but is not publicly available. It would seem to me that, assuming said database does exists, the only way for a specific gun to get into the database would be for it to have been recovered by the cops. If the cops already have the gun, why do they need the database?

    Similarly, in order to have a database of illegal sales, LE types would have to be aware that said sale had taken place. If they already know about it, either the case has already been prosecuted and the perp found guilty or not guilty. What exactly would this database accomplish?
     
  8. Manedwolf

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    What's really interesting is that Senator Russ Feingold was less supportive of the assault weapons ban than George is.

    If there's a nomination, I really hope it's someone like that who IS willing to look twice and change past decisions, not Hillary. Hillary would be hell. Feingold, as shown below, apparently is willing to THINK and reconsider based on actual facts. Amazing.

    Here's from an article about Feingold voting against renewing the ban:

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    Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, who is up for re-election, was one of only six Democrats to vote against the provision renewing the ban on assault weapons, reversing a position he took on it a decade ago.

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    Feingold changes his mind


    Feingold said his mind had changed on the assault weapon ban since he voted for it in 1994. In an interview in May, he indicated he would be giving the measure a fresh look.

    Tuesday, he said: "I have come to believe that it is a largely arbitrary and symbolic measure. Citizens see it as a first step towards confiscating their firearms."

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    I'm stunned. That's more than Bush did. See next post for what Bush said.
     
  9. Manedwolf

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    Is it really? I suggest you read up on what he said.

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    MODERATOR: "Mr. President, new question, two minutes."

    "You said that if Congress would vote to extend the ban on assault weapons, that you'd sign the legislation, but you did nothing to encourage the Congress to extend it. Why not? "

    BUSH: "Actually, I made my intentions -- made my views clear. I did think we ought to extend the assault weapons ban, and was told the fact that the bill was never going to move, because Republicans and Democrats were against the assault weapon ban, people of both parties."
    The third presidential debate on October 13, 2004 in Tempe, AZ
     
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    Did you mean to say that there were peolpe around who were not aware of Mrs. Clinton's attitudes/position regarding firearms?
     
  11. Silver Bullet

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    Look at the voting records.
     
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    This is a blatant misstatement of the facts. In actuality, the database referred to is a listing of ALL the ATF firearms traces performed, whether used in a crime, found on the side of the road, or stolen and recovered. This broad spectrum may significantly alter what types of firearms are traced, compared to just firearms used in crimes, and provided more statistics to be perverted by those who would prohibit civilian ownership of firearms.
     
  13. boofus

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    Maybe hil should read her estranged husband's book. Even he admits that gun control cost his party control of the house, senate and the oval office. When Justice Ginsburg retires it will have cost them the SCOTUS too.

    If she runs on the gun control platform she has no chance unless the Repubs in power royally screw up in illegal immigration reform in the next few weeks. (are you listening Bush? 80% of Americans do not want your plan)
     
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    HC she makes me ill. But this database is the one Bloomberg and Daley etc. and the trial lawyers want to try and prove their new theory of gun manufactures ,dealers etc purposely flooding the great cities of this country with firearms. The BATFE is aganist letting the info out. So Ms. HC is even worse than the BATFE. Like I said she makes me ill.:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: Chrissy was just discussing this on Hardball the Demo pundit said this will only help her win. The Dems will never give up their push for gun control no matter what they say. They are lying.
     
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    Well if you want to Reunite the conservatives this is a good start.
     
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    What use would the Data Base even be?

    AFS
     
  17. boofus

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    So the ATF will know which houses to set on fire.
     
  18. Gunfire

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    estranged husband? what did I miss? Is something going on? Is she jumping off the coattails now that she has a senate seat?

    And as for Russ Fiengold, the more I read about him the more respect I have. For a man to stand alone is a man of strong convictions, right or wrong. A man that can re-examine his stand after viewing the facts and admiting he was wrong is a man of character. A Senator that will read the Constitution and BOR's on the floor to the other senators and beg them to follow it is a true Patriot.
     
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    I can't imagine what goes through the minds of people who think Hillary represents the left. She is a corporatist NWO Democrat like her husband, who tries to position herself as a centrist. Since big business has bought and paid for the spectrum of debate in this country, she might very well represent the center, in a perverted sense.
     
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    I'm sorry to say it, but I'm afraid America just might be dumb enough to elect Mrs. Snopes Clinton.
     
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    Too bad for her, once election year gets here, I will just barely be 18 and she will just barely miss getting my vote. I've already decided.
     
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    You were dead right with your 2004 predictions. I have a bad feeling you will be right again.
     
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    She's sexy? :D
     
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    [/QUOTE]database of weapons used in crimes and illegal sales
     
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