Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by borrowedtime69, Sep 21, 2022.
I believe the H&R 1871 Pardner pump shotgun was built by Hawk Industries (Norinco?), in China quite some years back. It is basically a copy of the Remington Model 870 featuring a machined steel receiver and a polymer stock and forearm. Some parts are interchangeable between the two shotguns, except for the barrels. Should make for a decent HD shotgun.
Yup...heavy. I guess thats a good thing when you are actually shooting it though. My hawks all have wider 2" slings. I think the 870 stocks need an adapter or slight fitting and some of the trigger parts need fitting. Never messed with it because everything has held up. I shortened the rear of the forearm a bit (its a little long) . Put on a polymer heat shield, and installed an old 870 convertamount bracket. Outside of that its stock from the factory.
My Mossberg 500 is definitly lighter. Almost feels cheap compared to the Hawk. Mossberg action is a little smoother but I still prefer the Hawk/pardner pump/H&R.
The finish is what it is. Put a coat of Eezox on it and I doubt you will have any rust issues. It soakes up the oil well. Any dings or scratches Brownells Oxphoblue does a good job. Mine still look good but I dont abuse stuff...shoot a lot yes but not abuse. No feeding or extraction issues on mine.
With the 28" barrel & synthetic furniture it weighs 8.6# empty.
They are a heavy feeling shotgun for sure. There have been times I have picked mine up and tought... Am I just tired or do I need to pump some more iron? My seven shot Mossberg 500 seems to balance a bit better. I think its just the steel receiver on the Hawk which I am will to accept the weight/balance difference for. The factory stocks on the Hawk/H&R are also very dense and thicker.
Mossberg might be a better choice for someone planning to go crazy and "tactify" as once you start adding all the extra stuff on the weight tends to really add up. The Hawk/Pardner is still pretty handy in stock form. Sling and polymer heat shield dont really add any weight.
It's a Chinese copy of a much loved and revered American gun so I understand people being a lil reserved about giving it any praise but I can tell you that it's dead reliable and will handle all loads and honestly, I like the ejection strength on it better than either of the 870's I've had. It slings empty hulls 2-3ft out and the action is a lil rough at first but 300-500 rds later it's pretty smooth.
You won't regret buying that pard. It punches above it's weight in terms of price, if I was on a strict budget and needed a good defensive shotgun I'd buy another for $180. The only problem is, at least a while ago you could easily find Mossbergs and Remingtons for $200-$250 so.....but all that aside, it's a good pump
I’ve had a couple Chinese guns, one an Ithaca 37 copy at 2X the weight and the other a Partner.
Both were heavy enough that I didn’t notice recoil. Both were ugly and rough enough that I sold them and bought beat up 870s. They will work.
In terms of compatibility with the Remington 870, my Pardner took a Knoxx SpecOps stock just fine... In fact, it took a Knoxx stock better than my Mossberg 500, which required a spacer to achieve the correct "fit."
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