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H&R Pardner Pump vs Mossberg 500 Shotgun

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  1. Roamin_Wade

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    Does anyone have any feedback for the H&R Pardner Pump shotguns? Would you say they are at least equal to, or better than the Mossberg pump shotguns?
     

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  2. 12Bravo20

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    While the Partner is cheaper I would personally go with the Mossberg - American vs Chinese. I have always had really good luck with all of my Mossberg shotguns.
     
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    I can't say it's any better than a Mossberg, but I've had my Pardner pump for 6 years now, never had a problem with it. If you plan on hu ting with it, I would go with the Mossberg, only because the Pardner is heavier.
     
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    I have an old Norinco 98 and yes the Chinese 870 clones are heavy. Mine has been reliable. The other thing to consider is aftermarket accessories. Way more available for the Mossbergs. Even thought the Chinese shotguns are 870 clones, a lot of parts will not interchange with a 870.
     
  5. Roamin_Wade

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    Ah, okay, H&R is in China now. That is a crying ass shame!
     
  6. DocRock

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    H&R is dead, killed off by the Remington parent company. An H&R firearm hasn’t been made in about 8 years. The pumps are just imports badged as H&R.
     
  7. PapaG

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    Keep the ripoff 870 clone H&R and give me a Mossberg. I'd rather have a real 870 than either.
     
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    Guy I know broke a part of his H&R Pardner and they couldn't supply him with a replacement, and straight up 870 parts didn't fit. Considering you can get still get used Mossberg 500s for $200 used I'd have no reason to consider a Chinese gun.
     
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    I have 2 partners with the 18" barrel. I bought them both used for $100 each. I keep 1 in my truck, another in my jeep, because they are $100 guns. I fired 1 box of shells, about half through each gun to make sure they work. Unlikely they will see much more through them, at least while I own them. They seemed fine to me. When I am going hunting with a shotgun, I have better guns for that.
     
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  10. 12Bravo20

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    Ah the spice of life, to each their own. Some prefer a real 870 while others prefer a Mossberg 500. I own both but always grab the 500 since I shoot left hand and it is more ambidextrous than the 870.
     
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    What part?
     
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    My boys love my Protector. It made 870 fans out of them.

    I am not an 870 fan.

    Note: I also own an 88.
     
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    If running for budget id get the 88 0ver the pardner. Ive had two mavericks and they are tanks and feel good. To say the H&R is better than a 500 is a big nope for me I disagree. The 500 is to me the best gun shy of a Ithaca. I prefer it to the 870. but that's just me.
     
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    I don't get fingers pinched or gloves snagged while loading a 500 like I do when loading a 870. Plus I prefer the tang safety, easy to use and always visible when you shoulder the shotgun.
     
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    The 500 is inexpensive , not cheap. Not sure where the dislike comes from, I've had an 870 that shot fine but everything was in the wrong place and the sharp edges , burrs and chatter marks throughout made me dump it like a bad habit. I don't shoot clays, I keep a pump shotgun for HD and I have a slug barrel for it if I want to try to hunt with it. Many years of shooting it and never an issue, I got it used for $180 in New condition- pardner is not my cup of tea YMMV.
     
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  17. Rex in OTZ

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    I bought a chinese H&R 870 clone a few years back, has so far been a good shotgun, time and a few boxes of shells might be the determining factor.
    Kids wanted a shotgun for game bird hunting and they didnt like the old stevens 258a bolt action 20ga.
    My mossberg 500 and 870 were adult size, then came across a H&R Pardner Pump with many features I was looking for.
    Youth model
    3" 20 gauge
    3 shot tube magazine.
    Vent rib, bead sight, choke tube
    Compatiable with steel shot.
    And like mentioned above, heavy for a youth model, but in a way recoil aint bad kids report.

    The gun shop at the time was selling mossberg 500's in 410 & 20 gauge ($500+)
    The tag price was causing quite a few folks to choose the H&R Pardner Pump($230)
     
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    I had an H&R 20 ga youth gun that I bought for my wife. It was heavy as hell, but I got it cheap. It would not feed shells worth a flip and I quickly figured out that the shell follower was broken in a brand new gun, and that was causing some issues with friction inside of the mag tube. I got it working reliably after a little tinkering and a lot of cheap ammo.

    On the other side of the coin...

    Mossberg. A 20ga was my first shotgun, I have had several others. They have never given me trouble, and have always been more reliable than the price indicates. I have yet to break one, and I have done some truly stupid stuff with them that probably should have jammed them up or broken stuff. I haven’t fallen in love with any of them, but they are no better or worse than any shotgun I have had aside from that H&R. I have grown tired of most shotguns, but the original 20ga still remains, and always will as it came from my grandfather. You simply do not find a better gun. Period. There are others that are prettier, has more bells and whistles, but none better, and that’s before price is considered. Throw cost and quality into the mix together and you quickly come up with the conclusion that there is no better bang for the buck than a gun that says Mossberg on it. 500, 590, maverick, it does not matter. Reliable, affordable, durable.
     
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  19. 12Bravo20

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    I am still using my 410 Mossberg 500 that I bought new in 1985 and it has had plenty of ammo ran through it over the years without skipping a beat. The 410 is currently sitting next to the 12 gauge 500, both loaded with 00 buckshot right now. My fiancé is petite and has MS so the 410 works great for her. I do have enough confidence in my Norinco 98 that I gave it to my son to use since he didn't have a shotgun at home.

    Like I said in a previous post, some prefer the 500 while others prefer the 870. Both are good shotguns and it boils down to personal preferences. For the money I would get either one over a Chinese import.
     
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  20. Roamin_Wade

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    The fact that Mossberg is the choice of the military speaks volumes. I default to an 870 as the pump shotgun that all others are judged. What I like about the Mossberg is that you can get one of those rubber bumpers and pop it into the action and then shoot those short shells that are great for home defense. I had the H&R single shot 20 gauge growing up and it was a damn fine shotgun. My son has one like that. The fact that H&R is now made in China is a deal breaker for me.
     
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    That's always a deal breaker for me.
    I might ruffle some feathers saying the same for new winchester rifles, I agree 100% that they're very nice and excellent quality rifles. But iconic AMERICAN rifles being produced by people who can't own guns and more than likely never shot so much as a slingshot. It's just not right and to me makes them cold steel , not guns with soul.

    I miss the H&R singles, so Henry will get the nod for my next single rifle or shotgun. I like the ruger no 1 but the price is too rich for me and they aren't found on the used rack very often.
     
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  22. Blue Brick

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    No one is going to change your mind about Chinese guns...but it funny how many things that our lives depend on are made in China.

    Odds are you will use one of those before the need for shotgun.
     
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    That's true, I buy American when I can. If can't afford it or can't find an American product I need I don't do without.
     
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    The Maverick is assembled in the U.S. from parts that are (mostly) made in Mexico,
     
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    Mine was an impulse buy, I didnt regret it. I have not ran 5,000 rounds through it, but the labor craftsmanship was excellent. Straight lines and very good finish. Zero malfunctions with low buck steel target ammo. Slick it is not, but it worked like tool.
     
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