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Handgun Cartridge on a keychain

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Mike-SoCal, Jun 27, 2003.

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  1. Mike-SoCal

    Mike-SoCal Member

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    There is a gentleman on Gun Broker who is selling a decorative keychain which has an empty cartridge/bullet attached to it, in this case, the impressive 300gr. 454 Casull. My questions are: Am I asking for a hassle if this type of "art" is seen in public? Is this the kind of thing that could easily be confiscated when displayed (along with other metal items) prior to going through a metal detector? I'd appreciate any comments regarding the legality as well as practically of carrying such an item. Thanks for your time.

    Mike
     
  2. dairycreek

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    Can't answer you question in the general sense.............

    but I can tell you what happened to me several years ago (well before 911). I had a 45 ACP shell which had a horizontal hole bored near the web of the shell. They were quite common as key chain ornaments then. No problem until I had to fly. Put my stuff in the little plastic tray and got through the detector okay. But, some sharp eyed security guard saw the dummy shell and raised pure hell. Ended up taking it off the chain and gave it to the guard and went on my way. FWIW! Good shooting;)
     
  3. jsalcedo

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    I once had a really cool 44mag cartridge cigar cutter.

    After pulling off the silver bullet the underside of the bullet had a circular
    cutter that put a little round hole into a cigar.

    It was taken away at the airport way before 911.

    Once went to pick up my friend at the airport. He was coming back from basic training.

    I had just come back from shooting and I forgot that I had 20 rounds of 7.62x54 in my jeans pocket.

    I was about to go through the metal detector when I reached for my keys..
    oops

    Went to the bathroom and dumped the rounds in the trash.
     
  4. Standing Wolf

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    Well, heaven knows decorative unfirable cartridges are a menace to society!
     
  5. Autolite

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    Same experience

    as the above posters. They will take it from you at the airport. Had mine "confiscated" almost 20 years ago.
     
  6. Autolite

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    Which brings up another point ...

    With reference to my immediatley previous posting, I must add that my "7.62 keychain" was obviously a dummy round and that I was traveling in my military uniform. The primer pocket held the little brass eyelet in place with crazy glue and the "ball" was actually loose. You could almost pull it apart with your fingers, but they wouldn't let me keep it. My question is do y'all notice that the concept of "zero-tolerance-no-use-of-cognitive-thought-process-permitted" is slowly becoming the norm in our culture. I work in an environment where going by the rules is just the way of doing things but I have found that there is absolutely no tolerance what-so-ever for an individual to exercise their common sense or their own judgement even when the individual agrees to assume all personal responsibility for making a judgement call. Where is all this leading too ???
     
  7. Mike Irwin

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    They're not paid to think, Auto.

    Ergo, they refuse to do so.

    Nothing infuriates me more (well, maybe the statement "That's not my job... LIKE ???? IT'S NOT, I'M TELLING YOU TO DO IT!) than running into someone who refuses to exercise their synapses.
     
  8. MountainPeak

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    I guess I need to buy one with my NRA credit card or checks. Maybe I'll mail the order in with one of my 2nd Amendment return address labels, while wearing one of my gun rights shirts. I don't care what the "public" thinks about what I own. If the public thought at all, you wouldn't be worried about things like a damn key chain. If you are going to an airport, buy a bic.
     
  9. 556A2

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    I have a .38 Special dummy cartridge on my keychain, and I have had no problems with it. To be quite frank, if someone tries to confiscate it, I'll inform them to pay me what I paid for it since the last time I checked it wasn't illegal for me to have it on my keychain. :fire:
     
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    I had a decorative 45acp case with rnlb and fixture in primer hole to attach to my key chain. Had my keys out and a supervisor saw the lead bullet:cuss: He went off on me, telling me that bullet is grounds for termination. Not on company grounds, I`ll fire you right now. I let him howl for a few minutes and showed him the bullet. He calmed down, said something under his breath and looked at me and said if it was real, I would run you off.:cuss:
     
  11. matis

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    Mike Irwin said:
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    They're not paid to think, Auto.

    Ergo, they refuse to do so.
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    Be glad they're not paid to think, Mike.


    If they were, do you think you could possibly get your money's worth??




    matis
     
  12. Mike Irwin

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    "I'll inform them to pay me what I paid for it since the last time I checked it wasn't illegal for me to have it on my keychain."

    We'll send you soap on a rope and a cake with hacksaw blades.

    Doesn't matter what's legal and what's not anymore. If a TSA person doesn't want you getting on the plane with something, you're not getting on the plane. It's your choice. Give it up and fly, or don't, and don't.

    Case in point the article recently posted here about the chef who had special omelette pan confiscated.

    Nothing says anything about omelette pans, either, and she'd flown with it before. But the TSA guy spoke, and that was that.
     
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    I once (not the operative word, ONCE) had a .50 BMG ball bullet (just the bullet, not the whole cartridge) on my keychain like this, and it was seized at the airport just like this. When I asked the shaved ape what I could possibly do with that item that could cause the aircraft harm, his 2-volt brain locked up and started smoking. I mean, the KEYS themselves would have made a more effective weapon than the bullet. Mike Irwin's right; these people aren't paid to think, and in most cases, they're simply not capable of it.
     
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    I've got a .45 ACP on a keychain.... a nice pewter NRA keychain.. wear it hooked to my belt loop for all to see! No negative comments yet.
     
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    Heck, they didn't let THR member Kaylee take the 1" long plastic Glock keychain she had on a plane. They'd completely flip over the pen in my purse: a .50 BMG round drilled to accept a ballpoint insert in the tip of the bullet. Hence, I don't fly.
     
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    I won't fly either.

    I had various cartrides and an '06 ballpoint pen. Even before TSA , people looked at you like some kind of redneck. So I quit using them. I'd rather CCW and be low profile.

    LEO buddy had his removed from his keychain and not even allowed to mail back to himself...A Major no less...flying out to a LEO conference.

    I have heard of people getting Earrings, lapel pins...etc. confiscated. Even questioned for reading material, with anything firearm/weapon related.
     
  17. jsalcedo

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    The best example is when they tried to take away Joe Foss's congressional
    medal of honor.

    It was pointy and verboten and they had to go through 3 supervisors before one of them vaguely knew what one was.
     
  18. TNT

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    I have a 480 round with the powder and primer taken out on my keychain. People have seen it and nobody has given me any crap about it.
     
  19. Autolite

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    SDC ...

    Your not fooling anybody. I know what your sneaky little scheme was! You were going to smuggle aboard a lead ball. Have a buddy of yours bring on a "harmless" empty casing, and then have someone else carry the powder and primer. Also, You were going to get a reloading press aboard buy claiming that it was for "rolling cigarettes". I think that you're just miffed because the security guard saw right through your little plan you clever little terrorist ...
     
  20. Zackmeister

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    It doesn't say much for Airport Security if they can't identify a real threat from a keychain. If they are that poorly trained, I sure wouldn't trust them to keep me safe.

    And they didn't know what a Medal of Honor was? I hope they profusely apologized for the error and gave him a free ticket. (Dreaming I know)
     
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    Stealth is the byword. Why advertise that you are a gun owner? That is just a pride thing. Be non-descript. Hanging a bullet on your keychain is asking for trouble, especially at the airport!
     
  22. Moparmike

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    Good one Autolite.

    This brings up something I think everyone needs to posess at least 1 of, more if you fly often. I ran across a site that has the Bill of Rights on a metal business card. You can keep it in your wallet.

    www.securityedition.com

    Makes these. I suggest you do like the site says and say in a loud voice "Yes, please inspect or confiscate my Bill of Rights at your leisure."
     
  23. Kentucky Rifle

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    There was a post on "The Firing Line" regarding one of those NRA Charlton Heston "Silver Bullets" someone had on his keyring at some airport. (Atlanta maybe?) Anyway, although it was obviously a fake cartridge keyring keepsake, it was confiscated. It was a shiny, .45 Colt that had a hole through it for the chain and was of one-piece design. Going a bit overboard maybe? Pretty silly.

    KR
     
  24. danny

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    Wow! I didn't know they actually sent out any of those Charlton Heston dummy cartridges. I signed up my son-in-law as a member, paid for it myself, and never got the perc. Also never got my Eddie Eagle video years ago for renewing. Finally left the NRA as they only seem to want to comprimise on everything.
     
  25. Sisco

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    I got four or five of them.
    When I was young & dumb I made a keychain out of a 30 carbine cartridge. A live one with a hole drilled through the bullet. :what:
    Carried it a couple or three years. Never tried to go through an airport with it though.
     
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