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Handgun vs. Coyote/Bobcat

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by raindog, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. Robbins290

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    This is the only pic i have or one i dispatched. Th
    I agree, grew up in a city. Moved in the woods when i was 19. I will never go back to the city. I trust wild animals more then i trust people. I have been around alot of animals in my life. Some i had to dispatch, most i just watched. You can tell when a animals is going to hurt you or try to hurt you. People, not so much.
     
  2. Nuclear

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    Notice how small the Mexican Grey Wolf is in relation to a domestic dog, much smaller than its Northern and Eastern relatives.

    The few Jaguars in AZ are down by Tucson (so far). Lots more Mountain Lions. You don't really see either, unless they want you to, I think.
     
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  3. 98s1lightning

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    I have not shot a coyote with a 9. My suggestion for 147jhp is just and opinion on what I think would work best. Heavy for caliber on a small auto round is my go to choice.

    Where I hunt in MID MAINE I have personally seen a coyote/wolf mix or coydog where the animal must have been 70 plus pounds. It looked like an adult German Shepard mixed with a coyote. More than anything it was curious and kept popping out of the woodline and running along side us while we were on 4 wheelers. I did look mangy. I later read a newspaper article of wolves being studied in the area. It was the first and only animal I have ever seen that looked like that (wild but similar to German Shepard more of a dog face than coyote)

    I have shot coyote in maine which I would guess was closer to 50lbs (heavier than my 40lb brittany spaniel) The coyotes here in southern New England I've had experience with are under 40 lbs (not as large as the aforementioned pet)
     
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  4. Robbins290

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    we must be seeing the same hybrid. Im in limerick and there some massive ones around here
     
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    I'm hunting 175 miles North of you, near Lincoln
     
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  6. Merle1

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    guess that means there are more than one of them! :D
     
  7. 98s1lightning

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    Yes there is at least 2 hah
     
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  8. Merle1

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    I'm starting to feel bad for those poor bobcats - they have been pretty much left out of this thread... :D
     
  9. barnetmill

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    Bob cats when around tend to keep a lower profile.
     
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  10. barnetmill

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    That dog that was chasing the mexican grey wolf is plus 100 lbs. Years ago I remember seeing mexican grey wolves in a zoo and they were in the 55-65 lbs range mostly. At first that wolf was thought to be a coyote-wolf hybrid. I assume the smaller size is related to the available prey and also the competition with cougar and jaguar may play a role in the size of the prey animals hunted by the mex grey wolf.
     
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  11. Nuclear

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    It seems the mountain lions, coyotes, deer and bobcats are smaller out here in the desert, compared to those you find in more temperate parts of he country, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Mexican Grey Wolves were smaller as well.
     
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  12. Trey Veston

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    I did a tour at the Fort Irwin range in the Mohave desert. We were warned about the coyotes. They would sneak into the open sleeping areas and steal MREs right out of your pack.

    They were tiny things. Maybe 25 lbs. Smallest coyotes I've seen. Smart as heck, though.
     
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  13. Robbins290

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  14. barnetmill

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    My neighbor is a retired marine and once while training some troops in the former Subic Bay base in the Philippines they sent one privates off to go through the woods to a local McDonalds and get burgers and fries for the guys. On the way back he was robbed by a band of monkeys. The male showed his teeth which by the way can be very large and made it clear that they wanted the food. He gave them food lol.
     
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    When I smoked I did not do it in the house. I learned to enjoy setting on the front porch. I’ve long since quit smoking but am usually found on the porch.
    A few years ago I caught a glimpse of an animal I’d not seen before as it ran across the lot next to our house. It was about the size of a mid sized German Shepard, low to the ground, dark brown in color with a somewhat slender tail almost as long as it’s body. After diagnosing all of the clues I have determined it was a cougar, puma or mountain lion, whichever of those creatures that are found in Missouri.
     
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    Cougars, pumas, and mountain lions are all the same species. Only the Florida panther is seen as a different subspecies as far as I know. They are rare. The tail description is spot on.
     
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  17. Trey Veston

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    When I lived in Iowa, I had a friend who lived a few miles out of town. He called me one night and said he just had a crazy experience. His dogs were barking outside and going nuts. So he went out with a flashlight and they had a cougar treed about 15 yards from the house in a large oak tree. He asked me what to do and I told him to call DNR. So he called DNR and they said there were no cougars in Iowa. He replied that his dogs have one treed right outside his house at that very moment and he had taken several pictures of it.

    They hung up on him. He called me back and I told him to get the dogs back in the house and it would leave, which he did, and it did.

    The complete incompetence and idiocy of government agencies never ceases to amaze me.
     
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  18. barnetmill

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    He could of said on the phone if it does not exist i can shoot it right!?!
     
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    Well that explains a lot.
    :rofl:;):rofl:;)
    Agreed. .380, 9mm, .38 Spl, etc. We're not talking about a Griz or a Kodiak...
    OMG! I'd love to see a video of that. My cat (12 lbs) does sometimes to my dog (83 lbs) and he just looks at the cat as if to say "What's up with you?"
     
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  20. barnetmill

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    It may have had young near by. I have seen them go up and act injured trying lure me away.
     
  21. 460Shooter

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    LOL! Yeah, we are all a little different.

    Here's an old forester joke.

    "Knock knock"
    Who's there?"
    "No one...…………… ever."
     
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    I was a military police tower guard for years, I get it.
     
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  23. 460Shooter

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    Certainly possible. We surprised each other. It came crashing out of the tall grass on the cut bank on one side and realize I was there once it hit the gravel. Whoops!

    Wouldn’t have been cute if it clamped down on my ankle.
     
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  24. Thibaut

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    We have coyote and bear here. Regularly. Urban area. Gated. The coyote eat our small dogs and the bear eat our garbage and love to laze around in our pools. We have confiscated their habitat and it is a sad situation, really. We've an ever-growing problem with green Iguanas. They get shockingly big for a lizard. Eight or nine pounds of muscle, grown. They get pretty close and are some nasty looking. They swim faster than any reptile I've seen. Mostly underwater. Their only protection, as far as I know, lies within our anti-cruelty law. Conservancy python hunters find the largest breeding groups still south of us but they are coming. We are encouraged to kill pythons on private land and paid (during specific periods) to kill them on public lands. Preferred kill method is through the brain.
     
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  25. sigp6

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    Absolutely fine.
     
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