Handguns are more convenient for home defense vs Rifles and Shotguns?

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Anyone use handguns for your primary home defense needs even though rifles and shotguns are more effective?

I know my AR's or my Mossbergs would be better for home defense but with children in the house I don't have a fast way to access them. I've used an electronic GunVault for years that is very fast for my Glocks. Also when checking out things that go bump in the night on the outside of my house, I find the handgun with the weapon light is way more convenient that a long gun.

Now, once the children are out of the house I will probably lean a shotgun in a corner. But even so I don't know if I would grab it instead of a handgun to see if that noise was a possum or a prowler.

Anyone deal with trade-offs like this and what did you do?
 
Kinda. AR pistol. It's technically a handgun. It sits next to a 92fs though. So, for convenience yes, a pistol is far more convenient as it takes up less space and only takes 1 hand to operate. For effectiveness I would say that the typical pistol is far below any rifle or shotgun unless said shotgun is shooting #4 bird shot or smaller pellets.
 
I wear a handgun all my waking hours, my AR is close by. The safety aspect with children and firearms should never be compromised. I think however, it is a smart option to have a long gun stored at the ready as a fall back weapon. Hanging a long gun horizontally above the door inside a closet on rubberized hooks is one option. If you do it right, nobody will know it's there.
 
Unless the firearm is on my person or within my immediate reach; it goes in one of the safes under lock and key. That's the only way I have to guarantee physical control of it.
 
I keep a Ruger 10/22 with a Tapco Intrafuse M4-type setup and a 25-round magazine in a corner.

But, since a handgun is always on me when I'm dressed, and next to me when I'm not, I don't see going for that long gun, or any other I could put out, first.
 
Full size pistol is the primary for HD at night/anytime.

There is an AR that would be available but I really hope I don't ever have to unleash it inside the house.

While some folks claim to set muffs/buds right next to their bedside gun I doubt most folks actually do. Any long gun without ears in the house is going to be hell on the ears and in all but the most extreme circumstances probably isn't warranted in the first place.


To each their own but a semi pistol with an extra mag or two should have you sleeping just fine.
 
Any gun going off in a house is loud-BTDT. I've shot plenty of them indoors testing them after repairs, and in indoor shoot houses. There are solutions out there that are available for storing a ready rifle or shotgun for HD safely, such as the Hornady Rapid Safe.
 
To each their own but a semi pistol with an extra mag or two should have you sleeping just fine.
1911, .45 ACP with an extra magazine, and a very noisy cocker spaniel with good ears on the foot of the bed keeps the wife and me sleeping just fine. And I was thinking about it just tonight as we were watching TV - there's a hotly loaded .38 Special in the desk, within arm's reach of my rocking chair in the living room. And another one in the hall closet.
The wife keeps a loaded, youth model, 20 gauge pump standing in the corner of this room (a spare bedroom) for zombies or something.:)
 
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Having spent a uniformed career clearing buildings of various types, for HD INSIDE the house it's a handgun.
Shotgun & AR are both ungainly & harder to handle in tight spaces, opening doors, going through doors, taking tight corners, and so on.

The handgun can easily remain thoroughly viable & dynamic in one hand when the other's needed for other uses.
The shotgun & AR, not nearly so.
Denis
 
Whatever revolver I carried that day goes on the nightstand. Usually .38 Sp. or .327 Fed Mag. I do have a creek that is about 100 feet from my house that is surrounded on three sides by 75 acres of government eco protected woods and swampland. I keep a .12 ga. 7 shot pump within reach of my bed just for that reason. Over the years I have had all kinds of two legged and four legged critters come out of there. Most with good intentions but some not. The 12 ga. gives me an edge, I hope, if I have to step out the front door and confront something.
 
Anyone use handguns for your primary home defense needs even though rifles and shotguns are more effective?

It might surprise you to hear, but some people think that a handgun it more effective in their homes.

It would be fairly easy to get close enough to me that I wouldn’t be able to get on target with a rifle.

At contact distance, I’ll keep my G17 thank you.
 
Over the years I have been asked many times what gun to use for home defense. My answer is always a shotgun, they are easy to use and work well inside a building. They always say No, I meant a handgun. My carry gun sets by the bed at night so I guess I understand the thinking that a Handgun is 'the' choice. Although the wife does have a shotgun by her side of the bed
 
My house has a small hallway that is about 3 x 6. It has 5 doorways. If I stepped out of my bedroom into it with a long gun, I could not swing around to cover the other 4.
 
For almost 40 years my hobby was breeding and training large: guard, search and rescue, and attack dogs. Personally, I do not think any home defense system is complete without a combination of one large and one small dog inside the home. This home security method was, for many years, our first line of home self-defense; and, voilà, it’s worked very well.

With us the dogs always came first, and individual self-defense equipment has always come second; however, at our house I like to think that, over the years, we’ve developed the best of both approaches. Each of us owns and knows how to use our (awesome) ‘black rifles ’ — which are, as far as I’m concerned, the finest home self-defense weapons ever invented! At our house armed self-defense is NOT an individual task. Instead, my wife and I have learned how to work together as a single cooperative unit.

Me? I never play the ‘lone wolf ’ and attempt to do silly things like run around the house with a gun and light in hand. That’s about as foolish a thing to do as, say, standing at the top of the stairs and loudly racking a round into the chamber. (Which, if the other guy is also armed and knows what he’s doing, is sure — SURE — to get an ingenuous shotgun-toting homeowner promptly killed on-the-spot.)

Just like the National Rifle Association (correctly) teaches, we use a ‘safe room ’ home defense technique. We work together; and neither one of us would ever walk around the house in the dark looking for whatever might be ‘going bump ’ in the night. With the possible exception of animal hunting (Animals don’t shoot back, right!) I have never attached a light to my gun; and, for a fact, I know that I never will. Why? Because, most of the time, I’m a lone (or stand-alone) gunman; and I need my muzzle to be able to point in one direction while my forward-held light is pointing in another.

When it comes to safe room self-defense I teach the standard home course, literally, ‘by the book ’; but, privately, I tell my friends that the best way to use a light in self-defense is to always have somebody else work the light for you. Although I’m sure that I’ll be dead and long gone before the general public finally ‘gets the message ’ the only self-defense people who should ever affix a light to their guns are SUPPORTED — NOT UNSUPPORTED — shooters. (Not in my lifetime, though, right!)

Anyone who might enter our home at night and attempts to breach our safe room is going to get lit up; that’s for sure; BUT, the light will be coming from one direction while the gunfire will be coming from another!

Now, before anyone starts firing inside a home, the safest and most advantageous LINES AND ANGLES OF GUNFIRE must be known; and, in addition to knowing your safest and most advantageous lines and angles of gunfire, the principal engagement points around the home should also be carefully preselected.

(Hint: Foyers, stairs, landings, hallways, and doors are the first places that need to be considered and mapped out. Some of my own personal favorites? I like to lie down at the back of a hallway and watch the top of the stairs for the first head to appear. I, also, like to stand behind open backed stairs to wait for the first intruder to come down. Stairways are, then, the most dangerous contact points inside any dwelling.)

Foyers, landings, hallways and doorways are, about, equally dangerous and need to be carefully traversed — ideally by a multi-member entry team that’s adept at ‘leapfrogging ’ one another from one point-of-contact to another. In this regard there is one hard fast rule to which I know of no exceptions: (Ready?)

THE COMBATANT WHO MOVES FIRST IS ALWAYS AT A DISTINCT DISADVANTAGE; OR, SAID IN ANOTHER WAY, IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THE ADVANTAGE, COMPEL YOUR OPPONENT TO MOVE TOWARD YOUR POSITION RATHER THAN YOU MOVING TOWARD HIS.

This tactic applies equally well to: large groups, small groups, and individual combatants. Hence, the strong advantage to using a safe room, rather than stalking around in the dark looking for an intruder (or intruders). What’s the best way to defend any non hardened room? First, once the fight is on, remember that sheetrock doesn’t stop bullets; and, second, stay out of the corners.

Personally, I like to be somewhere close to the middle of the room; ideally as one of several different pieces of furniture; one of which will be me, hunkered on down, and looking straight at the middle of the doorway! (Applegate used to recommend that the best place for a room defender to position himself against a breaching attack force is smack-dab in the middle of the room while lying across the top of a table!)

Another home self-defense technique (Perhaps my personal favorite!) I like is to exit the home the moment an intruder enters. (Getting out through either a window, or a door doesn’t matter.) One fellow I know realized that he was about to face multiple assailants; so he slipped out a side window and waited to engage the intruders as they attempted to leave his home. He made it; but they didn’t.

Now, let’s talk about self-defense equipment: Every nighttime bedroom should contain a: cell phone, firearm, set of house and car keys, and high-intensity flashlight. What question do I hear and see all of the time, especially on internet gun forums? (You probably already know!) (1) ‘What gun should I keep by the side of my bed? ’ There are, also, several ancillary questions: (2) ‘Should I keep an extra reload with my bedside gun? ’ Then there’s my own personal all time favorite IGF question, (3) ‘Should I keep a round chambered in my semiautomatic pistol while I’m sleeping?

My own answer to Question #1? ‘Yes, you should keep a firearm with which you are, both, well practiced AND familiar by your bedside.’ Are there any caveats? Yes, there are! If there are children or elderly (not quite or mostly ‘non compos mentis’) people in the home then all firearms should be kept unloaded, and locked up in either a gun safe, or high-security lockbox.

Generally speaking: Shotguns are also a very poor choice for home self-defense. Shotguns are not practical for either precision fire and/or hostage situations. Shotguns are remarkably capable of doing a lot of structural damage, too; and, while shotguns are certainly ‘killers ’, I remain in complete agreement with Jim Cirillo that, most likely because of imprecise shot patterns, (a problem that is especially prevalent in the larger shot sizes) shotguns can too often be really anemic ‘stoppers’.

Neither are small caliber pistols ideally suited for home self-defense; and I do NOT care that the American public is currently in the midst of a torrid love affair with small pistols. Like shotguns small pistols ARE also ‘killers ’; but they are NOT rapid ‘stoppers ’; and rapid stopping is what every home self-defense scenario is ultimately all about. (The fact that an attacker might die an hour later in the hospital isn’t going to do a home self-defender any good in ‘real time ’, right here, or right now — Understand!)

On Question #2 the correct answer is, I would hope, obvious. ‘Yes, you should! ’ With a revolver: five, six, or seven rounds might not be enough; and with a semi-auto: It’s feeding malfunctions that are the principal reason ‘Why’ an extra magazine should always be kept with the gun. (With many high-capacity pistols extra ammo is simply an additional plus that’s nice to have.)

Common question #3? The correct answer is an emphatic, ‘No, you should not! ’ I know of, at least, six people who have shot themselves with an assortment of different bedside semi-autos; and, in general, (because there are a few exceptions) nobody should attempt to: wake up, grab a pistol, and perform competently with it ALL at the same time — OK! (Sorry, Glockeroos!)

Finally a few words about caliber and that great bugaboo of home self-defense scenarios: Bullet penetration. (Which, although it shouldn’t be, is often referred to as ‘over penetration ’.) Let’s get this straight:

ALL BULLETS PENETRATE, ALL OF THEM! ALL BULLETS ARE, ALSO, 100% CAPABLE OF ‘OVER PENETRATION’ TOO.

Why? ’ Because the expression ‘over penetration’ is too often used as a catchphrase for just plain, good old fashioned, piss-poor marksmanship; and, in my personal (carefully considered) opinion, it’s naïve to think of fired bullets in any other way. THIS is the reason ‘Why ’ Jeff Cooper’s Fourth Firearm Safety Rule (@ Post #9) is so important; and every home self-defender should always be extra careful to predetermine each of his open and available LINES AND ANGLES of fire. (You can’t always do it, OK; but when these lines and angles of fire are available they should be used.)

What follows is an article by ‘Jeremiah Johnson ’ someone whose self-defense opinions I have learned to respect. Before closing this out I’m including it here because, after a long lifetime of doing these things, I am not personally aware of a better answer; so I might as well let ‘Jeremiah ’ say the rest of THIS for me.

Remember, when it comes to home self-defense: ‘Tactical carbines ’ are superior to both rifles and shotguns. Rifles (If you’ve got the maneuvering room to use them) are superior to all handguns; and all self-defense handguns should be either 9 x 19mm, or 45 ACP and capable of holding, at least, a bare minimum of 10 rounds.

There are no children, or naïve elderly people living at home; consequently, I’m most comfortable simply putting my G-21 EDC under my pillow every night. In fact this has become such a habit with me that I have trouble trying to fall asleep without that ‘lump ’ under my head!
 
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My first line of home defense has always been a handgun. Started out with a S&W Model 10 with a couple of speedloaders and a Streamlight flashlight. Nowadays my go-to choice is a SIG P229R with a SIG STL-900L laser/light module and a spare magazine.



I should add that my "other" first line of defense is a very light sleeping dog who is outside our bedroom door every night.
 
Awhile ago I bought a Mossberg 500 short barreled shotgun for added home defense, but with grandchildren often at my home I knew I could not leave it just leaning against the bedpost or in a corner of my bedroom. So I use a Shotlok to hold the loaded gun behind hung clothing in my closet. For a bump in the night situation it would not be my first action to get the shotgun, but I would be grabbing the Glock 17 with mounted light from my GunVault next to my bed. The shotgun is now mentally relegated to a more involved type scenario, such as a natural disaster where law and order have essentially disappeared and I need to maintain a defensive posture to protect my wife and home. Since I don't hunt I guess this shotgun might be an expense that I never justify, and I don't even have anywhere to practice with it conveniently, but the gun and the wall mounted Shotlok only cost under $500 total so it doesn't bother me to have the gun sit unused but ready if needed. What really does add to my home defense plan is my little 13 pound dog that has extremely good hearing and barks up a storm when there is any unusual sound in or just outside my home. With my old ears and damaged hearing, my dog will likely wake me rather than my hearing the glass window being broken and then it is me and my Glock 17 versus the intruder.
 
Handguns are more convenient for home defense vs Rifles and Shotguns?
I can keep a handgun concealed in case it is a false alarm.
I can have a flashlight or cell phone in my other hand* or have a hand free to open a door or to close and lock a door.

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*We had a self-defense incident where the defender had 911 on-line and the grand jury heard the whole incident in real time: they returned no-bill and freed the defender. Based on the newspaper accounts, a good indict-a-hamsandwich prosecutor could have had the defender for lunch, it would have been easy in a court room to spin that case.
 
Handguns offer more options than rifles or shotguns; very true. Are they better for everyone? Not necessarily. Like Denis, I too have door kicker training. If I am forced to clear my house, I know how. I'd be more likely to do that coming home to an open door when it should be locked. I would already have a handgun on me, so that would be used. If someone is trying to kick my door in, I'm hunkering down in the bedroom with my 12 ga. in my hands, a .45 in the belt or next to me, and SWMBO calling 911. Many of us on THR practice with our handguns regularly, (not as much as I'd like to in my case) but most gun-owning homeowners don't. Getting to a safe room and pointing a 12 ga. or AR at the door while calling 911 might be a better option for them.
 
With kids in the home, you have a free hand with a handgun to open doors, round them up, etc. I use a handgun for primary even though my kids are grown and gone. My wife would head toward our safe with her cell phone and grab either the shotgun or rifle that stays loaded while she calls 911.
Heck, I might even join her there and back her up if needed. :rofl:
 
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