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Handled a Taurus 1911 this weekend.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by jon_in_wv, Nov 12, 2006.

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  1. jon_in_wv

    jon_in_wv Member

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    One of the local shops had a Taurus 1911 on his counter this weekend so I took the oppurtunity to take a quick look at it. It seemed very well put together. There was very little play in the slide to frame fit and the barrel also seemed to have very little slop in either the hood or the bushing. Overall, all the parts seemed nicely machined and well fitted.....BUT, the under side of the trigger guard was checkered and the checkering on the frame was a bit more pronounced than I would like. All of the checkering on the grips, frame, and mainspring housing was sharp and made the weapon feel "machined". It somehow didn't have the organic feel of a 1911 or a HP. Overall I think it may be just the ticket for some but I would rather spend the 525 he was asking for the Taurus on some type of used 1911.
     
  2. jkomp316

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    Those should be going for $460... NOT $500+ This price gouging makes me angry, just because its new and not well stocked yet...
     
  3. jon_in_wv

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    Remember this was at a pawn shop though. Thier prices are more like an offer than a price tag. I'm sure I wouldn't pay anymore than about 460 out the door for it with minimal haggling. Even at 500+ they aren't a bad deal. Kimbers, Springfields, etc..can go for 1500 configured the same way. I don't think the quality is equal but the extra grand can go a LOOOONG way.
     
  4. Manedwolf

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    Except from all reports I've heard, the Taurus 1911s, unlike many Kimbers, shoot to match standards without ftf's or stovepipes out of the box, and don't require ramp polishing or being sent to a smith to be tuned before they work right. :neener: ;)
     
  5. Phenom

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    That's because the fit of the Taurus PT1911 isn't as tight as a Kimber 1911.
     
  6. Ala Dan

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    I sell the NIB Taurus PT 1911's everyday for the low price of $459.88~!;)
     
  7. Just_a_dude_with_a_gun

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    I seem to be reading the opposite. Reviews I've read state the PT is very tight from the factory, Shooting times, and Amer. Rifleman being the ones
    I recall.
     
  8. Phenom

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    You're talking gun magazines.
     
  9. cedjunior

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    Gun magazines, and almost ever other user review I've read on here. The only 2 complaints I see on a regular basis are about availability and the finish.

    I've been looking for one. Local pawnshop owner/Taurus dealer would have ordered me one for 10% markup + tax if he could find one. Dealer price on the gun is ~$390. One other place actually had one in stock, but he wanted $570 for it.
     
  10. akanotken

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    Ala Dan

    When are we going to see other calibers come out? 9mm would be nice, but a .40 would be uber cool as well.
     
  11. orionengnr

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    Wow, I have yet to see

    retail price on a Kimber exceed $1000...and those are the same "asking" prices mentioned earlier.

    I have bought four (all used) and have spent $575-775 for each. One was a pre-Series II with 16 rounds through it.

    Oh, did I mention that three of the four were 3" alloy framed models, and none gave any troubles at all?

    Shop on. :)
     
  12. Lennyjoe

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    I fondled one when I was in Florida TDY and I was impressed. I have a Kimber Pro Carry and the son (Springerman 05) has a Springer Mil-Spec and the Taurus seems to have more to offer out of the box. Being that the Mil-Spec is a basic gun, its hard to compare the Taurus to but the Kimber is right on line.

    As for the Taurus, I like the checkering on the grip. Also like the Heinne sights, hammer, trigger and fit. The only thing I didn't care for was the ambi safety. Being left handed I want an ambi safety but the Taurus one is just a bit too big. Sticks out too much for me but it's not something that couldn't be overcome.

    For $459 I'd grab one in a minute. The store in Fla wanted $525 for it.
     
  13. jon_in_wv

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    I've heard from my gunsmith that Kimber also uses a very loose chamber to promote reliability, but it also leaves the case unsupported. He showed me a casing from a Kimber barrel that had exploded and it was obvious that the chamber was throated too deeply. The Taurus seemed to have a more appropriate throat on the barrel.
     
  14. jon_in_wv

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    Cedjunior, 39 bucks is not a lot of money to order a gun and do all of the paperwork on it. The guy is running a business. Let him make some money. If you don't want to pay 500 bucks than go somewhere else but don't get mad at him because he is trying to turn a profit. We need to support our local gunshops and a 10% markup is kinda low for a $390 dollar gun if he sees other shops selling them for 500. Which is the amount I've seen them for. I'm not trying to flame you but if it was my shop I probably wouldn't do it either unless you were a regular customer who spent a lot of money at my shop.
     
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    Trying to flame or not, you jumped the gun there buddy. I don't have any idea where you got the idea that I was mad. I'm still trying to make sense of your post.:confused: I asked the pawn shop owner/taurus dealer if he carried the PT1911. He said no, but that he would see if he could order it for me. He took out the dealer catalog and said "look there it is, $390, I can get it for you for that plus 10% and tax". No where in my original post did I say I was pressuring him to give me that price. Unfortunately, he was not able to order a PT1911 without it being on a lengthy back order, which why I said "if he could find one". Thats a shame too, because he was very eager to sell me one at the price he gave me. But thanks for your opinion :rolleyes:
     
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    The reviews of it I've heard so far have been quite good. Taurus I think makes a quality firearm anyway so I don't think I'd hesitate to pick one up myself. $450 you really can't go wrong. Sure, I'd love a Spring or Kimber or Para, etc, but hell, if I wanted a 1911 out of impulse I'd pick up the Taurus.

    I'm waiting for a compact version if they don't already have one, those micros are cool :cool:
     
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    I've fondled a couple of them in local shops. My favorite shop has had a couple and the 'smith got a 14 shot group at 10 yards that was about the size of a quarter, straight out of the box. Granted, he's a Distinguished shooter, but that's enough for me to want to buy one just so I have a nice 1911 in my rack. He's itching to put a nicer crown on one and see how it really shoots. IIRC, he's got them priced around 469 or so.

    Regads,
    Rabbit.
     
  18. SSN Vet

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    all I can say about the PT1911 is ....

    I WANT ONE !!!

    But I don't get how a Colt 1991 series w/ a 5" barrel measures 8-1/2" overall.

    and

    a the Taurus PT1911 w/ a 5" barrel measures 6-1/2" overall (according to the Taurus web site).

    is this an error on the Taurus sight?

    or did they change the grip angle?

    don't get it...
     
  19. Cowboybootnut

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    I saw one today at a local Dallas gun store. They have it for $489 cash and $509 credit. I think that for the price and the reports on accuracy and reliablity it is a good deal.

    I just have a Ruger DC90 and a Colt Defender in .45.

    I am thinking............. :scrutiny:
     
  20. Phil DeGraves

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    "Even at 500+ they aren't a bad deal. Kimbers, Springfields, etc..can go for 1500 configured the same way."

    The most expensive top of the line model Kimbers, brand new don't go for $1500 unless you are a sucker. You can get a entry level Kimber which is made in AMERICA new for about $650. Even their high end ones top out at about $1200. We'll see which ones are still running 5000 rounds from now. I haven't had any trouble with my American made Kimbers and Colts. I've had nothing but problems with my Brazilian made Springer (although it is unbelievably accurate...when it works).
     
  21. jon_in_wv

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    You know what, Ced, I'm confused too. I must have misread your post, my apologies.
     
  22. jon_in_wv

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    Kimbers have come down in price and while many models are closer to 600 bucks now they have plenty of models that seem to still be over 1000 bucks. The market has become fat with "custom" 1911's. They aren't getting the same premiun they were when Kimber started out.
     
  23. SSN Vet

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    Isn't Brazil in America?

    or do the other half a billion people not count:rolleyes:
     
  24. Phil DeGraves

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    American made means USA. I didn't think I needed to make the distinction, but I will respect your technical interpretation.
     
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    Gather around, I'm here to sell!

    The Amazonian Eagle .45 - a high quality firearm, made in (the) America(s).

    :D
     
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