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handloads for 25-06.

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by oz_lowrider, Oct 21, 2008.

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  1. oz_lowrider

    oz_lowrider Member

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    G'day from Australia. In the Reloading Manuals I see that the smallest bullet for the 25-06 is 75gn, yet, the 257 Roberts can use 60gn. As both bullest are
    .257 dia why can't the 60gn be used in the 25-06 using the same powder.. Is it because there would be to much empty case area and burning wouldn't be efficient? If I could use from 60gn to 120gn then I would surely have the "all rounder" so often mentioned.

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  2. joneb

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    With a slower twist barrels and a faster powders it should work fine, certain bullets can only spin so fast.
     
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    Hi Waboo...


    You're probably right about the empty space with a 60-grainer in the 25/06 but I couldn't swear to that.

    Am curious about what 60-gr. bullet you want to use and what you intend to use it for. Between the 87gr. and the assorted 117/120-grainers the 25/06 covers all the bases from targets and varmints to elk with style. What could a 60-grainer add to that ?

    ???

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    Thanks JIBJAB and SHAWNEE. In one of my Aussie handloading manuals there is a 60gn mentioned for the 257 Roberts, no type however. In my old 2nd Edition of Sierra Bullets it lists a 75gn as the lightest. I'm not sure what bullet is used in the Aussie Manual. I do know the barrel twist used was 10:1. I will write to the Author and ask wahat bullet. Do you know of a 60gn in .257? Rabbits and foxes are the target. I want to find something when it's hit. I simply want to try the 25-06 instead of the .22 magnum or the .243 with 55gn bullets.

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    Looking forward to reloading this caliber as well.
     
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    Triple posting error, sorry.
     
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    Hello waboo, the only 60gr. .257cal bullet that I know of is designed for the 25-20. Even with a very reduced 25-06 load, it would be like tossing a grenade at the target. That 60gr. would be very destructive, but maybe that's what you want. It will probably self-destruct if driven too fast as they are designed for 1500-1600fps. I have heard many talk about "the load", which is 13gr of red dot powder for under 2000fps use in rifle cases, but as always use at your own risk. Perhaps someone has another recipe.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=726884

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  9. Shawnee

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    That Hornady bullet is the only 60gr. .257 I know of too.

    Can't imagine it working well from a .25/06 but maybe it does with some unusual load.

    But BE CAREFUL !:scrutiny:

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    Not that I know from experience or have the numbers in front of me, but I'd venture a guess that a 75 gr, even an 87 gr bullet downloaded could reach the same energy levels as a 60 gr projectile and still be safe and reliable. I guess the point is that it's the amount of energy that is important, as well as bullet construction, when trying to save meat/hides.
     
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    I think going the wrong direction in bullet weight if you are trying to save fox pelts.

    Even at 500 yard remaining velocity out of my 25-06, the 75 grain varmint bullet is a very destructive bullet on coyotes.

    I believe you would be better served by going to a more heavily constructed big-game bullet in the 100 - 120 grain range, using starting load data.

    That will give you a velocity of around 2400 - 2500 FPS, and the more heavily constructed big-game bullets will not do to terrible much damage.

    A 60 grain at any reasonable 25-06 velocity would be like an atomic bomb going off inside a fox.

    rcmodel
     
  12. oz_lowrider

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    THANKS, for all the advise, I'll take it. I read about the 25-20 bullet also and thought not. The heaver bullet may well be the answer.

    love the electile dysfunction quote.
    I also admire T Jefferson pity we haven't had a pollie with that foresight and intelligence.

    waboo
     
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