Hard to believe this was 20 years ago.

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  1. Miami_JBT

    Miami_JBT Member

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    I still remember when the HS2000 was first hitting the scene. Hard to believe that was twenty years ago now.

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    Here's mine that I got long after Springfield Armory got the import rights.

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    It still seems like yesterday to me that I walked into Lou's Police Supply when they were located on West 41st St and Palm Ave in Hialeah, FL and seeing them under the glass priced at $299 while GLOCKs were next to them going for $398 (Blue Label). At the time I never jumped on one because I was deep in the GLOCK[sup]TM[/sup] Kool-Aid[sup]TM[/sup] (and I still am).

    I thought back then that they'd never catch on, especially since the Clinton AWB was in full swing and pre-ban mags didn't exist unless you modified Beretta 92 mags for the gun. Hell, after Springfield Armory bought the import rights I recall them outright selling modified Beretta 92 mags for the gun. But the Beretta mags had an issue of breaking the ejector on the gun if you slammed the mag in hard because the floor plates weren't the same thickness so the mag went a little further into the gun.

    Anyways, I thought that the HS2000 would never catch on and it would be like other GLOCK wannabes and just either fade away into the ether of forgetfulness or be laughed at like the S&W Sigma. Well, I was wrong and it appears that a decade and a half later I even bought 1999 made HS2000 and then a 2006 made XD-45 and just a few weeks ago a 2019 made XDM-45. I even learned to like them for what they are.

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    Amazing how time has gone by.
     
  2. armoredman

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    The Croatian Sensation! We had them on the shelf at the gun shop/indoor range I worked at, and a few people bought them, instantly happy. They don't fit me worth beans, but a very well thought of sidearm.
     
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  3. jar

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    The Croation Sensation:

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    I finally sold mine about a year or so ago.
     
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    The originals were handsome guns.

    Cant get past the goofy sci-fi styling on the new ones.....or the visible casting lines on the slides, bleh.
     
  5. JR24

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    Had an early XD9 (after the rebranding) 4".

    Nice gun.
     
  6. potmetal

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    I've always had good luck with XD pistols but I never tried one of the original HS guns. I worked in a shop when they started coming in but the owner decided to "wait and see" before ordering any.
     
  7. vzenmn

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    Need to give mine some TLC. I got it in 2008 and it was in great condition. Then my Dad strong armed it from me. I got it back a few years later when he died. The frame is fine, but the finish on the slide , takedown lever, and mag release was trashed. I think the people on the net saying the finish on the older XDs having rust problems were telling the truth.
    Iv'e shot I dont know how many rounds through it over the years. It shoots fine and has never had a FTE or FTF but is starting to not hold the slide back when empty.

    Need to replace the slide release and refinish the metal. The date molding inside the frame says it was made in December 1999. I guess I need to wish it a happy belated 22nd Bday.
     
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    My buddy has owned one in .40 for over a decade and is very pleased with it. It's his primary duty sized semi-auto.
     
  9. Homerboy

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    I agree. I remember when the HS2000 came out. I liked the grip safety. Should have bought one back then. I think the original one looks cleaner than a new Springfield.
     
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  10. vzenmn

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    Sure didn't have the Grip Zone back then. I think I remember in about 2001 or 2002 reading an article in the Shotgun News made maybe by David Fortier (spelling on the last name.) That got my attention on the HS2000. Then all the gun rags started writing articles about this new "Glock Killer" from Springfield Armoury called the Xtreme Duty pistol.
    Then I remember playing Resident Evil 4
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    Man that gun kick butt in that game. Ended up getting me one.
     
  11. Reinz

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    I remember being impressed, especially at the price. I liked the idea of the grip safety, but hated how it looked. It was a narrow piece that looked like an afterthought made in someone’s garage. I also didn’t like the feel of that grip safety. Those are the two piddly reasons I didn’t buy it.

    When Springfield took over I was very happy with the improvement of the grip safety, but not the huge price increase.
     
  12. Hazwaste

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    Got mine after Springfield had acquired the rights and sold it as the XD-9. Had to have been around 2005. Still my bedside pistol. I love that thing.

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  13. Miami_JBT

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    Springfield Armory didn't change a thing to the gun.

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    The XD is just a 3rd Gen HS2000. All that changed was the markings. The internal parts between the 1st Gen and 3rd Gen are all the same, even the grip safety.
     
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    My first pistol was the XD9 I love mine. It’s never given me any problems. Very reliable gun.
     
  15. LaneP

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    I do like the aesthetics of "honest wear" on a duty pistol. I work on a military installation and the gate guards all carry M4's and M9's. On some of the M9's there is literally no anodizing left on the visible portion of the grip.
     
  16. Reinz

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    When did HS replace that narrow grip safety with the larger one ? It doesn’t show on your chart. Or did I happen to see a super early gen one?

    The one I saw had a grip safety half or less than the current width.

    Is yours the same as the current one? Yours is a gen one, right?
     
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  17. Devonai

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    In 2001 the Massachusetts Army Guard was doing a "Soviet weapons familiarization day" at the Worcester Armory. Somebody brought in a HS2000 and put it on the table along with the various AKs, Makarovs, etc. I thought it was a little silly to think that any Comblock countries at that time would be using a commercial Croatian pistol in their lineup. But I suppose stranger things have happened. At the time I figured somebody just wanted to show off their new pistol.
     
  18. jar

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    Before the HS2K there was the HS-95:
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    Look familiar to anyone?
     
  19. Miami_JBT

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    There never was a change in the grip safety at all. There never was a "narrow grip safety replaced with a larger one". They're all the same.
     
  20. vzenmn

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    And before that there was this eyesore. PHP MV. I had one and wish I still had it. It's like a Walther p38 raped a Beretta m92 in Chernobyl and 9 months later that was born. Decent shooter though.
     
  21. Reinz

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    That’s where you are wrong. For I had not only seen, but held it as well.

    Maybe I was holding a prototype or 1 of 50 or 100. It looked nothing like what they are now, which is why I would not buy one at the time.
     
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