Has anyone ordered or received an order from Eric at HBE leather?

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NCLivingBrit said:
From where I sit, this Eric is a crook, using a few fulfilled orders, a decent product, hope and a litany of sob stories to keep bilking suckers. If I had any money in this mess, I'd be pressing fraud charges through the SAG's office right now.
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And how is he doing what you propose? He isn't "still bilking suckers" as you said, because he isn't taking new orders, he is focusing on filling the orders that have already been placed!
 
He -says- he isn't taking any new orders.

He also said he'd deliver within certain deadlines, return calls and generally carry on his business in a legitimate fashion. Until threatened with legal action and repeatedly exposed publicly, he didn't do any of those things as promised.

Benefit of the doubt is one thing, swallowing this story is another. When each and every customer has received their order (preferably before it becomes an item of their estate rather than something they can use) -maybe- HBE could be considered a legitimate enterprise. Until then, it's merely a provider of broken promises for hard earned money.
 
I don't think Eric is a crook. He is a very poor businessman. His work is excellent.

I've been staying out of this thread because my experience is out-of-date, but have to respond to this "crook" label.

I ordered a holster from Eric in about 2004 or so. Instead of the 5 weeks promised, it took 5 months - and an e-mail to cancel the order and return my check. Then I got the holster. It is extremely well made. I would not care to do business with Eric again, but he is not a crook.

A crook is a thief, someone who takes your money with no intention of seeing to it that you get the merchandise. I think Eric means to see that everyone gets their holster, he is simply unrealistic about how long it will take him to make all those holsters.

Regards,
Andew
 
NCLivingBrit, if you would go ahead and try to place an order for one of his holsters, you'll find out real quick that he isn't just saying that he isn't accepting orders... he really isn't taking orders!
 
Holster Arrived

Hey Guys,
My holster and mag pouch arrived today. They look and feel fantastic. Will get my daughter to take some pics and post later this week. I'd do it myself but once technology progresses past the 'Etch-a-Sketch' things get a little complicated for me.:eek:
 
Look, folks, don't call this guy a crook. There is no evidence for that charge.

As an artisan, he is top notch. Not only the workmanship, but the design of the holsters I've seen (and bought) is among the best.

As a businessman, he... shall I say... sucks. But it seems he is doing his level best to make things right in that area. What more can you ask?

Being a "people pleaser," being a "poor businessman" does NOT equal being a "crook"!

I'm not saying you don't have a beef if your order was delayed WAY
TOO LONG. I'm not saying you should not complain, and complain loudly.

Just be careful what terms you use in your complaint.

I myself have purchased three holsters from Mr. Larsen. I am entirely satisfied with what I got.

Would I purcase another? Not until things get straightened out, and have been demonstrated to be so. After that? You bet I would!

Just my $0.02, and worth what you paid :)

Albert
 
Well after reading some of the concerns and some of the reasons people have recieved instead of their holsters, I dont think I will be ordering a IWB pro 2 shark shin trimed one for my new Sig 229, I think I will resort to a Uncle Mikes before I put myself thru. that much heart ache. JIM
 
Wingbird, even if you did order it, you wouldn't receive it as Eric isn't accepting new orders. He is focusing on filling existing orders at this time.

There are a good number of folks, myself included, hoping that Eric is able to turn his ship around and get back to accepting orders.
 
I ordered a holster last November (06); CC was promptly charged. No product in all this time, and no returned phone calls.

Today's update: got a letter from US Bankruptcy Court, wrt HBE going Chapter 7.

So my money is gone unless he chooses to fulfill outstanding orders. I guess I'll find out.
 
He's local to me and I almost dropped off my PT145 to him to make me a holster. Glad I didn't do that. Wonder if I would have gotten my holster - and my 45?
 
Today's update: got a letter from US Bankruptcy Court, wrt HBE going Chapter 7.
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Does the letter indicate when the bankruptcy petition was filed or when proceedings began?

Went back through the thread and found the answer. He's been in bankruptcy for two years and converted to a Chapter 7 this year apparently.
 
Ok, so maybe that doesn't change the previous status quo there? I.e., completed orders continue to slowly dribble out. OTOH, still no holster....
 
Ok, so maybe that doesn't change the previous status quo there? I.e., completed orders continue to slowly dribble out. OTOH, still no holster....
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It may change things a bit as it shows orders were still being taken long after this blew up and the issues were public. Maybe I'd missed something, but I think yours is the latest order we are aware of. That's not a strike against you as you weren't aware of what's going on, but does indicate that money is still changing hands even though holsters aren't as likely to.
 
The debacle with HBE is really a shame. Especially since Eric was on of the few internet start holster makers to actually give credit to holster makers of the past or current designers.
So many of the "new" holster makers have copied designs from Lou Alessi, Milt Sparks, Mitch Rosen, et al and not given any credit at all.
 
Registration required -- can't view.
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It's worth signing up for. If that's where he is currently explaining his actions, then it's important for you to get your story on that thread.
 
have both been quiet for a while, anyone heard from HBE as of late?
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Based on that other board's thread activity, I did get a call from Eric maybe 6 weeks ago and he said my holster would be done in 2 weeks (i.e., 4 weeks ago). Now I've been calling and leaving messages, to no avail...as the 1 year anniversary of my original order and CC charge passed by last week.
 
So my last post was 9 June 2007 and I haven’t heard anything so…… Eric if you do happen to check this any more enjoy the charitable contribution I made to you I have no expectation on you coming through on this and to tell the truth I completely forgot about it because UBG made me a great holster and I love it hope all is going better for you and enjoy my contribution
 
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