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Has anyone read the Taurus Warnings?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by JeremyIA, Jun 10, 2005.

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  1. JeremyIA

    JeremyIA Member

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  2. CentralTexas

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    Now thats

    too funny!
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  3. dsb

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    For those too lazy to open a pdf and scan down :neener: :

    WARNING:
    Securing your firearm may inhibit access to it in a defense situation and
    result in injury or death.
    WARNING:
    Failure to properly secure a firearm may result in injury or death.
     
  4. A Cleaner

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    Darned if you do, darned if you don't.

    Perfect example of covering all bases, even those diametrical in nature.
     
  5. Old Fuff

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    Obviously written by a good lawyer looking out for his/her client ... :neener:
     
  6. pax

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    Heh. I noticed those earlier this week.

    Truth in advertising.

    pax

    During the mid-1980s dairy farmers decided there was too much cheap milk at the supermarket. So the government bought and slaughtered 1.6 million dairy cows. How come the government never does anything like this with lawyers? -- P. J. O'Rourke
     
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    Actually from what I've seen of people in my lifetime and the things they do, I would bet money there's more that a few souls out there right now confidently carrying their Taurus or maybe other brands of handguns with the action locked and the key in their pocket or maybe even at home. :eek:
     
  8. Werewolf

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    Hmmmmm...

    Well that pretty much guarantees I'll never buy a Taurus semi-automatic pistol (I've got one of their revolvers - don't have a clue where the key is though). Maybe they need the extra revenue from repairing pistols damaged by those who actually use the stupid security system :banghead: but forget not to when the slide is open. :uhoh:
     
  9. The Grand Inquisitor

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    I wouldn't be so hasty about staying away from Taurus' semi's and revolvers, I have one of their .38 special/.357 revolvers and a friend has at least 3 Taurus revolvers and one of the Berretta clones, and every last one of them function perfectly and shoot fantastic, especially my friends .44 Magnum, which is his most accurate revolver, and he really knows his revolvers.

    I wouldn't put Taurus in the same leauge as Freedom Arms, but I would certainly buy a Taurus over Colt or Ruger revolver, not only because they tend to be a great value, but also because Taurus is a company who is friendly to its customers and has never sold them out to curry favor with the powers that be.
     
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    I dunno, I think the security system is a good idea. Not for a defense weapon, but if you have kids. Its just one more layer of security. The key is to only use it on guns you aren't actively using. IE, not in a safe or on your person. Ideally, you should have your gun on you at all time with kids.
     
  11. Kharn

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    Their lock isnt as visible as the S&W one, when I get around to buying a revolver it will be a Taurus (I like my cousin's 650SS, might go for one myself).

    Kharn
     
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    Gotta luv lawyerese... :rolleyes:

    I don't even know where my Taurus "safety key" is. Good thing that lock isn't prone to backing out on it's own - I wonder if I locktited it in place long ago? :cool:
     
  13. JeremyIA

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    I've only bought one gun with one of those assinine integral trigger locks. I had one problem with the trigger lock and I got rid of the gun. I will never buy a gun with an integral trigger lock. My Remington 597 failed to fire after I unlocked it. I had to lock it and unlock it again before it would fire. It was a recreational gun. I am glad I learned my lesson with a recreational gun before I bought a defensive gun with a similar feature.

    Ruger is now bastardizing the Vaquero with this silly New Model that also has one of these silly key locks under the grip panel. I can "swallow" the concept of a transfer-bar safety on what is SUPPOSED to be a cowboy gun. Now I'll spend the extra money on a Colt before I buy one of these silly anachronisms called the Ruger Vaquero New Model.

    I'll buy a Ruger SP-101 or a S&W 60 before I buy a Taurus. I like Taurus revolvers but I won't buy a gun with an integral lock.
     
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    Don't know about the locking system jazz but, I do know about Taurus.
    My PT92 is fantastic in terms of reliability, accuracy, fit and finish.
    The people who wrote the manual were bold in telling you that if you can't get to your gun, your goose may be cooked.
    Sounds like plain, simple, honest advise to me. But, you are correct in pointing out that it is somewhat ironic with both statements.

    When I bought mine, I got a free membership to NRA and a free full cap magazine after the ban left.
    As far as I'm concerned, Taurus has proven to be pro-second.
     
  15. JeremyIA

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    I'll bet Jennings is "pro-second" too but I won't buy a gun that isn't guaranteed to go "bang" when I pull the trigger. Integral locking systems are just one more additional mechanical device INTENDED and BUILT-IN to actually CAUSE a gun NOT TO FIRE. Forget it. Too much redundant "safety" for me. I wouldn't trust my life to it. I don't even like manual safeties. Give me a decocker and I'll be pleased.

    SIG rings a bell :cool:
     
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    Only own one Taurus. It has been totally reliable and is EXTREMELY acurrate. I don't have a clue where my lock key is!! Oh, it's the Model 608, 8 shot 357mag revolver.
     
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    Yeah, I've met some kids like that too! :evil: :evil: :evil:
     
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    I bought one of their revolvers and noticed that/those warnings,Now I'm afraid to take it out of the box

    I used to have a Davis derringer, the manual basically said that just loading the thing was dangerous and probably should not be done.
    At least they were honest
     
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    Out of my 8 handguns, 4 have the built-in locking system. Have I ever locked them ? NO. Are they secured and out of reach when stored? YES. I have a Taurus 92, Taurus PT945, SW 637, and Bersa thunder .380 with the locks, all function perfectly, I have yet to ever have the slightest hiccup with any of the autos in several thousand rounds combined. The lock is there, whatever, doesn't affect operation, I don't use it so it is a non-issue, ten years from now all new handguns will probably have them, the new dirty trick will be the handguns that will only fire when the owner is holding it.
     
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    Just courious...can those locks be removed with out damage to the gun?
    Mark.
     
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    Essentially, I'm guessing that management bargained with their insurance company's lawyers over that one. Makes sense...

    Guys, the gun industry is getting more and more dumped on by the legal profession. Before one leaps to conclusions, engage the brain.

    Ferinstance...

    Ruger's wafflewording in its manuals says that they don't guarantee squat. Nada. Zip. You bought it, it's your problem now.

    Thing is, everyone I know who has sent anything Ruger back for customer service says that they're entirely happy with service that borders on a lifetime guarantee.

    Which means: You abuse the heck out of something, you probably have a nice paperweight (never have heard of that one tho...). If there's something that could be even partially the company's fault, they take care of it. Nice.
     
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    At home I'm sure. On their person - OH GOD LET'S HOPE NOT, for their sakes!

    It is ironic, and redundant, but it also kinda makes sense. A loaded firearm is always a potentially-danerous thing. However, an unloaded gun when you need it the most is EVEN MORE dangerous.

    I have a Bersa FireStorm .45 with the internal lock. I use it whenever I store it, and the gun still works fine. However, one should test their safeties every so often to assure proper function (at the RANGE ONLY!)

    -38SnubFan
     
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    Donno about the Taurus, im a 1911 guy ;) But i do know that in general, yeah, a competent gunsmith should be able to remove them. 'course Springfield's ILS is part of the main spring, so swapping in a new one gets rid of it pretty nice and easy :p
     
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    on my revolver the lock looks to be a simple hex screw that backs out to block the hammer from cocking.
    When it is not activated it counter sinks into the hammer, so it's hardly as noticeable as the hole that would be left after removal would be.
    If the gun was blue instead of SS it would not be noticeable at all
     
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    Internal locks

    Why is an internal safety lock any more likely to fail, and lock itself, than the gun is likely to fail and fire itself?
     
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