Has Tactical Gone Too Far?

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Hey 444

I think we would be good friends if we ran into each other on the range, if you don't mind a little debate every now and then. Just a feeling.
 
>One flashlight, one red dot, and a forward grip, im fine with.
However, red dot and laser, that seems a little pointless.<

That was actually something i had thought about doing whenI finally build up my carbine: optical site for standard ranges (75-100 yards), laser for closer (less than 25 yards) and "hip-shooting". Although probably more than needed, still didn't seem like a BAD idea... ;)
 
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One AR-15 plane jane 16" Post hitler Clinton ban so no flash supresser. 3 point sling, VFG, Aim point knock off. Why? cause I like it!
Tacticool marketing has gone over the top but if it gets more people shootinig I am all for it!

-DR
 
Hunter Rose said:
>One flashlight, one red dot, and a forward grip, im fine with.
However, red dot and laser, that seems a little pointless.<

That was actually something i had thought about doing whenI finally build up my carbine: optical site for standard ranges (75-100 yards), laser for closer (less than 25 yards) and "hip-shooting". Although probably more than needed, still didn't seem like a BAD idea... ;)


Mm, true. Or if you used the laser as a backup.
 
the last department i worked for issued an M4 with lights, holo sights, forearm grips, and all sorts of gadgets on it. i get to carry my own M4 now and it's an A2. it's loaded up with a specter gear sling...that's it. i found those gadgets useless and opted for simplicity.

when you're standing around for a while holding it ready, the forearm grip hurts your wrist. the magazine makes a better forward grip.

the eotech took time to turn on. quite a few times i had to grab the gun and run. it seems minor, but i don't have time to stand around and get shot.

when i had the rifle slung over my shoulder, the light would bang on corners.

my experience taught me that stuff has it's place, but not on my rifle.
 
to me it is the adverstising that has gone overboard. have you looked at some of the catalogues for some of the rifles and autoloaders around.? Geeeez it is as if everyone who is buying a rifle is on the lookout for tango's and MZB's with the need for 1000 yard kills on hardened and night optic equiped targets. Ads for knives where a guy with a M4 and a thigh holstered muffled SIG reaches for his fast-out,double-wave, have-to-send-it back-to-the-factory-to-shapen $ 485 tactical folder, Really now.

I recently saw an ad for a AR forarm that has 6 piccatiny rails on it. 6 of them.
 
M.E.Eldridge said:
I want to know your opinions on the matter. Has the tacti-cool fad gotten out of hand? At every gun show I see ARs decked out in all sorts of fancy lights, lasers, collapsable stocks, holographic scopes, grips, mag couplers and other junk. Now I could see the use of a light or laser on a pistol or carbine, in fact I want to put one on a Hi-Point .40 S&W Carbine, but what they got now seems to much to me. Any other thoughts?
In this context it has purely been reduced to a new marketing term. Since tactical is a word pertaining to tactics; deliberate or planned action with a particular outcome desired - actual or theoretical. It is not a color, or a type of bullet or boots.

Yes, it is out of hand. The perversion of language is very rarely, if ever, a good thing. It nearly always serves to simply cause confusion, and that manifestation is very evident in this case.
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All I "NEED" is my laser/light" on my Warrior, and that for practicality

All I "NEED" is my laser/light" on my Warrior, and that for practicality. I prefer to shoot two-handed, and so the "tactical rail light/laser give the benefit of not having to hold a light in one hand and a gun in the other. Also, it illuminates any potential "bad-guy" for proper identification. Helps assure that family, friends, guests are safe.

On a recent trip to the gun store/indoor range, I noted a MASSIVE change in advertising. No longer was it sufficient to have the "Tac Toys" in the show case. They had added this toys to every rifle on display! The boxes where in the case, the toys were on the guns. I must add, that, well, it was REALLY overkill! As I stood and looked at it all I could think was "marketing at its worst". It also took the average price of a Bushmaster from $1,000.00 to $2,400! For what? To make it look cluttered.

For me, it would not work. I prefer to keep it simple!

Doc2005
 
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