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Has the Thune amendment been voted on yet?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by HOME DEPOT GEORGE, Jul 22, 2009.

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  1. HOME DEPOT GEORGE

    HOME DEPOT GEORGE Member

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    I've had c-span on but haven't seen anything
     
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    I don't think so. I'm streaming AM radio, and the news breaks only mention that the issue is being debated on the floor. Of course a vote could be called for at the drop of a hat.

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    I guess I'll defer to Jorg's simultaneously posted info. Shot down.
     
  4. HOME DEPOT GEORGE

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    mods could you please correct my spelling in the title
     
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    Rejected....check out Google News homepage, theres a link to a CNN article 10 mins ago.
     
  7. HOME DEPOT GEORGE

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    Does this mean that the whole defense bill it was attached to was defeated?
     
  8. CoRoMo

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    No, just the Thune amendment was killed, i.e. failed to get attached to the defense spending bill.
     
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    No, just the amendment. Frankly, I am stunned we made it this far in this Congress. Look for it again next year. And ol' UpChucky caught lying on video again, about Vermont issuing permits to 16 year olds, (no permits needed in Vermont), that 16 year old Vermont gangbangers would bring in bags of guns to sell on NYC streets, (newsflash, UpChuckie, gangbangers don't care about gun laws, and are carrying on your streets anyway!), and he stated in print that Alaska is issuing permits to violent misdemeanors, (no permit needed in Alaska either, last time I checked), plus insulting my home state, too.
     
  10. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Alaska issues permits, although they aren't required in the state.
     
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    Republicans, George Voinovich of Ohio and Dick Lugar of Indiana both voted no. If those two would have voted yes it would have hit 60 and passed.

    You folks in Ohio and Indiana need to remember this come election time. But I wonder,
    would it really have been a great idea to give the federal government a "way in"? Would this not have given them a tool to start restricting at a federal level the right to carry?
     
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    In a way it is good because certain states that are anti but still have concealed carry like NY,NJ etc would be locking up a lot of people for violations like hollow points,carrying too close to a school even if you were on the highway passing by,unapproved weapons for the particular state etc. For the record these are just hypothetical situations that might happen if the feds shove a law down the throat of highly anti states.
     
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    "Both Arkansas Democrats voted yes, but Mark Pryor had initially voted no and then changed his vote at the very end to "yes" when it was clear he wouldn't be a decisive vote."

    A real stand on your principal kind of guy.
     
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    We got 58 votes in the Senate. 51 is still the bar in the Senate for a non-filibustered bill. So it failed a cloture vote, I assume, if I understand the process right?

    I am impressed we got 58 votes. Having succeeded on National Park Carry and very narrowly failed on this, I wonder what is "in between" that we should be working for next.

    P.S. The other side will never be able to put together 60 votes with the current Senate membership to reauthorize the semi-auto ban.
     
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    Sounds like it!
     
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    Where can I find who voted for/against the Thune Amendment?
     
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    Can we get a list of people who voted no? I think the one who flip-flopped may also need to be voted out.
     
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    Alright, I'm building a list here, of Senators not already mentioned that voted no.
    Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) No surprise there
    Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.)
    Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.)
     
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    I can't help with the count, seems like NRA news would be the first on this but???? Maybe not so much.
     
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    The following Senators voted yes:
    Alexander (R-TN)
    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Baucus (D-MT)
    Bayh (D-IN)
    Begich (D-AK)
    Bennet (D-CO)
    Bennett (R-UT)
    Bond (R-MO)
    Brownback (R-KS)
    Bunning (R-KY)
    Burr (R-NC)
    Casey (D-PA)
    Chambliss (R-GA)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Collins (R-ME)
    Conrad (D-ND)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    DeMint (R-SC)
    Dorgan (D-ND)
    Ensign (R-NV)
    Enzi (R-WY)
    Feingold (D-WI)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Grassley (R-IA)
    Gregg (R-NH)
    Hagan (D-NC)
    Hatch (R-UT)
    Hutchison (R-TX)
    Inhofe (R-OK)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Johanns (R-NE)
    Johnson (D-SD)
    Kyl (R-AZ)
    Landrieu (D-LA)
    Lincoln (D-AR)
    Martinez (R-FL)
    McCain (R-AZ)
    McConnell (R-KY)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Nelson (D-NE)
    Pryor (D-AR)
    Reid (D-NV)
    Risch (R-ID)
    Roberts (R-KS)
    Sessions (R-AL)
    Shelby (R-AL)
    Snowe (R-ME)
    Tester (D-MT)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Udall (D-CO)
    Udall (D-NM)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Warner (D-VA)
    Webb (D-VA)
    Wicker (R-MS)

    The following Senators voted no:
    Akaka (D-HI)
    Bingaman (D-NM)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Brown (D-OH)
    Burris (D-IL)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Cardin (D-MD)
    Carper (D-DE)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Franken (D-MN)
    Gillibrand (D-NY)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Inouye (D-HI)
    Kaufman (D-DE)
    Kerry (D-MA)
    Klobuchar (D-MN)
    Kohl (D-WI)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Levin (D-MI)
    Lieberman (ID-CT)
    Lugar (R-IN)
    McCaskill (D-MO)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Merkley (D-OR)
    Murray (D-WA)
    Nelson (D-FL)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Rockefeller (D-WV)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Shaheen (D-NH)
    Specter (D-PA)
    Stabenow (D-MI)
    Voinovich (R-OH)
    Whitehouse (D-RI)
    Wyden (D-OR)



    Byrd (D-WV),
    Kennedy (D-MA, and Mikulski (D-MD) didn't vote at all.
     
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    I thought REED was going to vote yes if he was sure it would fail? Or did he just promise to brirng it to the floor?
     
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    My mistake I got my Reids mixed up. Harry did vote yes.
     
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    Easy mistake. You stopped my heart for a second, though.
     
  25. Yosemite Sam

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    I thought Gillibrand (D-NY), from upstate New York, was pro-gun? Did someone pay her off to convert to anti?
     
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