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Has your autoloader jammed on you yet?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by CountGlockula, Mar 6, 2008.

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Has your autoloader EVER jammed on you?

Poll closed Mar 6, 2009.
  1. Yes

    227 vote(s)
    62.4%
  2. No

    137 vote(s)
    37.6%
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  1. CountGlockula

    CountGlockula Member

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    A friend of mine were shooting at an indoor range with our autoloaders and began rapid fire training. And here's how it went:

    Me:....ratatatatatataatatatatatatatatatatatatatat...reload...ratatatatatatatatatatatatat...

    Him:...ratata....uh...jam.

    He admitted that, if he were to be in a defensive situation, he wouldn't trust his gun.

    So the question of the day is: Has your autoloader EVER jammed on you?

    Jams: Stove pipes, double feed, failure to extract, etc.
     
  2. Top_Gunn

    Top_Gunn Member

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    No, but it's a Glock!
     
  3. Beelzebufo

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    Slew of ammo through a slew of guns, 1911s, Glocks, Maks mostly. Only two without a malf: Glock 30 and a Glock 17. The most reliable, otherwise: Glock 19, S&W 1911PD.
     
  4. PirateRadio

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    My Beretta 92FS never has. However, my new 1911 has twice in 50 rounds.
     
  5. Jackal

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    I have had every single autoloader I have ever owned jam on me, with one exception. I have had Para-Ordnance, Wildey, Ruger, Kahr, Kel-Tec, CZ, and Glock (yes, Glock) all have one malfunction or another. The only auto that I have owned that had zero malfuctions over the course of around 1200rds was, believe it or not, a Taurus PT111 (Now sold 'cause it didnt fit my hand). The amount of revolvers that have tweaked on me? Zero. For me, trying to find a reliable semi-auto is like trying to find Hillary's heart, it aint ever gonna happen.
     
  6. SuperNaut

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    Define jam.

    A jam, to me, is something far more serious than a FTF or FTE.
     
  7. Pa.Bill

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    Glock 19 ------> No
    Sig 1911 ------> No
    Bersa .380-----> Yes, once with the very first mag.
     
  8. lee n. field

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    Various guns have jammed for various reasons.

    Ruger P90, feed problems fixed by stronger recoil spring.

    Makarov, out of spec ammo (the ammo would hang up in the magazine).

    .380 Mak, doesn't like Winchester Winclean.

    CZ-100, jammed when it felt like it.

    XD40, doesn't like some of my handloads, sometimes.
     
  9. Pa.Bill

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    ~Disregard~
     
  10. Chipperman

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    To me a jam includes any malfunction: FTE, FTF, or stovepipe.

    Following those parameters, I don't own a single autoloader with more than 1000 rounds through it that has NEVER had ANY sort of malfunction.
     
  11. SuperNaut

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that a "jam" is when the mechanicals of the firearm malfunction and the gun itself is "jammed".
     
  12. Flopsy

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    Yes. You might want to sit down for this....okay, my Glock 27 jammed on me when I used to own it. True, the cause was lightened mag spring tension due to the addition of a Pearce grip extender. But still, it happened. I know it's unbelievable, but try to accept it. :neener:

    My 84F starts to FTF after about 100 rounds of cheap practice ammo due to grunge buildup. I have plenty of confidence in it as a carry piece because I only carry high quality JHPs, with which it has always functioned 100%, and also if I fire 100 round through it in a defensive situation, I'm under some highly unusual circumstances.

    My M9 has never had any malfunction of any kind, except it once failed to lock back on the last round on an aftermarket hi-cap mag.
     
  13. Jackal

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    Guys, lets not squibble over the definition of the word "jam". We all know what the original poster meant.
     
  14. CountGlockula

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    Define jam: pretty much a malfunction while firing your autoloader.

    I just want to get a census of how many have experienced it.

    Also, add how you fixed it!
     
  15. Steve C

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    If your auto hasn't jammed then you're just not shooting it enough. Most jams are ammo related and in my experience even the best factory ammo has a rare bad round. Then of course the more you shoot the more the parts wear and the more likely you are to get a failure.
     
  16. SuperNaut

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    Actually I didn't, that is why I asked. Not quibbling, not being a dick, genuinely wanted to know.
     
  17. littlegator

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    I've only put about 1200 rounds through my S&W M&P 9mm, but no jams thus far. (knock on wood)
     
  18. SeanMTX

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    Taurus PT92 - Yes...but only with bad ammo. (2-3 times over the course of 2000+rds)
    Taurus PT145 - No.
    Beretta 85F - Yes...but only when new.
    HK USPc - Nope.
     
  19. DJGrant

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    Colt 1911 - yup:rolleyes:
    GLOCK20C - yup:uhoh:
    GLOCK17- yup:uhoh:
    KelTec P32 - eeeyup:eek:
    Smith M&P9 - 2000 rounds - not yet - but I'm waitin' for it:what:

    /dj
     
  20. slow944

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    I've had 4 FTF on my latest CCW a Kimber Pro Carry Ten II, and I believe they were caused by a defective mag. I have a S&W 669 that has never had a jam. Also my K-T P3AT has never jammed.
     
  21. phoglund

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    Some have jammed, some have not. Some jammed early on but no longer do. Some have jammed for other (new) shooters but not ever for me. I voted yes.
     
  22. The Lone Haranguer

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    Over the years I've had autoloaders run the gamut from never having a stoppage in the whole time I have (or had) them to a stoppage with almost every shot, and everything in between.

    The "nevers" were the SIG P228 and P239 and four Smith & Wessons (5904, M&P9C, 3913LS and 6946, although I have not had the latter two very long). The "almost every times" were a Taurus PT945, Para-Ordnance P12-45 and my first SIG GSR. "In betweens" have been my Glock 19 and CZ PCR, but only a tiny handful which were really ammo-related.
     
  23. fletcher

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    My Makarov has never jammed (somewhere between 1500 and 2000 rounds I think).

    My 1911 had one bad night, but has never had another malfunction. It was very strange - FTF/FTE almost every shot for the first 2 stages at an IDPA match. A good portion of the participants also had major malfunction issues that night; don't know what the problem was. Maybe a bad cleaning job I did right before. However, it was 100% before then, and has been 100% after.

    Kel-Tec P32 got a bad batch of ammunition in the first box I purchased (light strikes), but it hasn't had any issues after I tossed that box and bought new ammo.

    I'd trust any of my autos, and have been very fortunate with them for the most part.
     
  24. USMCDK

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    I can't stop laughing it hurts. LOL

    I voted yes but only in the aspect that my wife's Walther p22 is the one that has jammed do to touchiness of ammo, however, my HK USP .45 has never.

    This is a great thread thank you
     
  25. SCBradley

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    CZ-75b: +/-1500 rds
    Glock 17: +/-2000 rds
    S&W Sigma 9ve: +/-1000 rds
    FEG PA-63: +/-250 rds
    BERSA .380: +/-500 rds

    Never a failure with any of them.

    The FEG had some temporary problems when I lost the slide stop spring but it wasn't the gun's fault. I fired about 50 rounds without the spring and the slide would accidentally lock back roughly 1 round every other mag.
     
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