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Has your job made you "mean"?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by hso, Jan 11, 2003.

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  1. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    I've found that my job of the last 10 years has made me a little "mean". I spend much of my time helping the folks I work for, but large blocks of my time are tied up in conflicts with clients, coworkers, or regulators. This can go on for weeks and sometimes months if I'm involved in a project that has dishonest, deceptive, or just plain arrogantly stupid people. I get into a very cynical predatory mode of behavior and I've found it carries over to the rest of the time and has taken longer and longer to shed once I'm out of the conflict.

    Who of you have the same problem?
     
  2. wardmclark

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    I'm self-employed, so I'm generally pretty pleased. My boss is a pretty good fella, all around. :D
     
  3. Gordon

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    Wellcome to the real world. I think you can see the purpose of religion now, not to get mean.:)
     
  4. AZTOY

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    hso

    I agree some job can realy get to you.

    What you need to do is spend more time at the range. Shoot a few mag and you will feel great!!!:D
     
  5. Neal Bloom

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    I wouldn't say it has made me mean. I do not trust people as much as before as I have seen way too much backstabbing in the workplace. Some people do it just to do it as it must make them feel good. There certainly seems to be a lack of integrity and ethics in the workplace. I guess when people see the CEO's and top management of major organizations fleece the organization they feel it is okay to lower their level of integrity.
     
  6. PCRCCW

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    In all honesty....at times ...the frustration and general feeling of being overwhelmed by stupid people...makes me nuts....being mean is sometimes a typical reaction.
    My 6 year old...Boo said it best " More times than not..when someone is very very mad/mean...its because there heart is very very sad ...sad turns into mad".....true story....
    Shes very wise.......Shoot well
     
  7. 4v50 Gary

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    Not mean but certainly less sensitive. I dislike whiners and hate liars.
     
  8. JamisJockey

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    Not at all. More stressed out, more frazzled, but not 'meaner' in any sense. If I want to be mean, I just remember that there's a couple kids on thier way to Grandma's house on that Seven-fifty-seven and its not thier fault the piolt's being a jackass...so maybe I won't unnecessarily delay them....now them private pilots are a different sort. Don't trifle with me, or you're going to be late!
    :neener:
     
  9. NewShooter78

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    My job had really made me a meaner person...when I'm working. I do security at a couple of night clubs on the weekend, and I'm around some of the worst people society has to offer. I guess that I'm more of a bitter person than mean, but none the less, I am not someone you would want to be around until monday afternoon.

    I used to have a corporate job, and even though that was bad enough, it didn't affect me the same way my weekend work does. I guess that its a different atmosphere, because when you have to babysit drunk a**holes all night long you get tired of it real quickly.
     
  10. TallPine

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    I just get tired of people everywhere who play power politics instead of just doing their job. Maybe the truth is that they CAN'T do their job, so they spend all their efforts at tearing down other people to try to make themselves look good.

    But the same behavior applies to more than just work - I see it in the anti-Whatever movements and in churches where people strive for control by using the bible and "sin" as a weapon to hold over people.
     
  11. ojibweindian

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    I love my job and think the people that I work with are great! It;s the drive to and from Huntsville, Alabama that makes me mean.
     
  12. sm

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    Interesting question & timing.

    I looking for a job, spent 35 years exposed to retail, and some years in a hospital enviroment.

    I think perhaps today its not the JOB as much as the attitudes, politics, backstabbing, Control Freak, with some Gov't meddling mixed in. Coupled with the Work ethic people have-or lack of.

    Mean, Nah--perhaps more cynical, less patient with whiners, liars and cheats, but then again not real fond of that type in the first place.

    Ijust finished speaking to Mom, and a couple of good friends, ages run from 41-73, funny we used to enjoy the work interaction,but a point well made was a mom and pop store is so busy with gov't paperwork and meddlin' hard to get any work done...that person actually felt resentment, she sold the family business,and retired.
     
  13. Yohan

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    Nothing like a good trip to the gun range to cure your mean fit.
     
  14. Preacherman

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    I have to constantly struggle against this problem. I'm a pastor, with very explicit and deeply-rooted beliefs: but I work as a Chaplain at a maximum-security prison, where the inmates are typically individuals who have at least spat in the face of everything I hold dear. They will come to me, and make use of my services and assistance, but 9 out of 10 will also try to manipulate, use and abuse me and the Religious Services function in any way they can to further their criminal intentions. One can become very hardened and cynical, very easily... It takes real effort to stop this from happening, and to remember, every day, that no matter how badly this racist, sexually warped, scheming, criminal scumbag is p***ing me off right now, Jesus Christ still died for him, and God's mercy is still available to him, right up to the moment of his death, if only he will genuinely and sincerely repent of his sins and receive Christ. Some days, it's easier than others... but it's always a challenge.
     
  15. Ledbetter

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    Ledbetter's "Poor me" post

    I am a public works construction attorney working for the county (a Deputy County Counsel). My responsibilities include being the attorney for all the "special districts" (sanitary/lighting etc.) administered by the county and getting roads, bridges and flood control improvements built.

    I work with:
    1. other attorneys
    2. the low bidder on every project
    3. developers
    4. politicians
    5. surety bond/insurance companies
    6. FEMA, Fish & Game, governmental regulators, environmental groups, etc.

    It is a fine thing to go make some smoke on the weekend at the range and forget about my job and the characters who inhabit it.

    http://www.countyofsb.org/counsel/staff.htm
     
  16. Tady45

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    Well,
    Yes and no...I have worked a number of Hotel security jobs the past several years. I have delt with drug od's domestic violence, thiefs, sucides, and general all around low lifes, and these are 4 and 5 star hotels! While I don't think that I have become mean I do understand that one must have an edge to deal with these folks. You get lied to many times, and my heart hurts a tad when I hear them explain their various plights. I also realize that emotional involment can get you wronged or even hurt.



    Larry
     
  17. Johnpl

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    "Illegitimis non carborundum"...Latin for "Don't let the b******* wear you down."

    I try to remember that the people who are making me miserable would be happy knowing that they've made me miserable, so I try my best not to let that happen.
     
  18. KP95DAO

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    The worst part of my job is when fellow staff members display attributes which should be expected of the convicts.

    Am I meaner after 12 years? I don't think so. In fact I have mellowed quite a bit. I think that is due mostly to being 12 years older and on the back half of the 40s.

    A few hours at the range is quite therapeutic for whatever ails me.
     
  19. Gewehr98

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    Had some sorties that went between 22 and 24 hours.

    We use the term "punchy" to describe our crew inter-personal relationships after flying that long together. Luckily, post and pre-mission crew rest alleviates the symptoms, as does the local beer. ;)
     
  20. DeltaElite

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    I can be mean when I need to be. It's the cop in me.
    Primarily I am a negotiaotor and mediator for people who are chronologically adults, but not mature like an adult should be.

    I hope someday to work with adults. :banghead:
     
  21. Monkeyleg

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    It seems for me that the people in my industry have changed over the last decade. There's no loyalty, no honesty, and no scuples. Out of the hundreds of people I know professionally, I can only think of one or two whom I would trust.

    It doesn't make me mean per se, but it does sadden me. I still try to conduct myself in an ethical manner, and that gratification takes some of the edge off the situation.

    Even better, though, is spending just a couple of hours at the range. Non-shooters never understand what a cathartic experience shooting is.
     
  22. telewinz

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    Sounds like a typical day at the office for me. The mentally challenged have to work too I guess.:banghead:
     
  23. TarpleyG

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    Corporate America sucks!!!

    There are so many back-stabbing, blood-sucking, a-holes at my job I just feel like throwing in the towel sometimes. The people that I work directly with are all a pretty good bunch, but to hell with the rest. You never know from day-to-day if you'll be employed. What ever happened to loyalty?

    And yes, to answer your question, I can be downright nasty at work sometimes.

    GT
     
  24. Apple a Day

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    I am a high school teacher. I see kids who will become lawyers, preachers, child molesters, murderers... they ALL come through my classroom. They ALL have parents of every sort. They are ALL teenagers, which means it's their full time job to push buttons.
    At times it's tough to keep from getting mean. Between the politicians, the underwhelming pay, the derision from people in the community- also people on posting boards such as this who tear into me for working in a "gumint skool"- the kids trying to get away with everything, and the parents who alternately dare me/plead with me to correct their children... yeah, sometimes I slip and get a lot more sarcastic, angry, and frustrated that I probably should. Mostly I get depressed. I lose hope.
    Count ten, give the world a big one-finger salute, and keep fighting the good fight. They can kill you, they can eat you, but they can't break you. :neener:
     
  25. BenW

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    Well, I finally know who to complain to about the Castillo St underpass at the 101.:evil:
     
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