Have any of yall done this??

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Have you ever shot the rifling out of one of the barrels of your pistols or rifles?? I am not sure why I want to know, just curiosity. Include pics if U have!!!!!!!!! :D :D
 
I think you'd have a hard time shooting the rifling out unless you REALLY heated up the barrel with extended rapid fire.

I had a Weatherby Vanguard 7mm mag in high school... I shot that thing ALL the time. Crows, chucks, deer, turkey... I reloaded for it and got under half-inch groups at 100 yards. The gun was awesome.

Several years later, I was going to Colorado on a hunting trip. Couldn't get it to hold a group. Kept getting worse and worse. I ended up taking another rifle. When I got back I was determined to find out what was wrong with it. Got it glass-bedded, some other stuff, still didn't help. I ended up selling it and getting another 7mm.

I wish I would have heard about copper fouling before I sold it.

:(
 
I bought a Clark long slide 45 ACP in the early 70's and shot it all the time. It got to the place where it would key hole at 50 yards with lead bullets but would still shoot jacketed bullets just fine. I had to get it rebarreled and it performed flawlessly again.
I have shot out several rifle barrels. The rifling was never wore out but the throat errosion would increase untill they would no longer hold the ten ring (centerfire rifles).
I have shortened several barrels by cutting off the chamber end and rethreading and chambering them and used them for prairie dogging for several years with good results.
If you use quality ammo and do not damage the rifling with cleaning rods etc. the rifling will last many thousands of rounds.
Vern
 
My dad has a 512 he got from his grandfather. he says it's not go a whole lot left, bought a marlin, becuase it has sentimental value, but he still wants to be able to shoot.
 
Now you knew I would have to click on a thread with such a title - now didn't you? :)

Shotguns count? Yeah I know they don't have rifling...I shot the last coupla inches off a fixed choked 28 ga single shot.

I was "experimenting" with an idea, fired the gun...I found the muzzle end with a couple inches of bbl downrange. I continued to "experiment" and ...err...I learned some stuff. ;)

Brand new single shot...I started looking for used guns to continue to ..."test" an idea.
 
"Extended rapid fire" does not strip out rifling.

100,000 rounds a year WILL.

I have friends of mine who are avid IPSC competitors who shoot 10k a month - and they need new guns every 2 years because their barrels are shot out.
 
One of the best IDPA shooters at one club says he has 30k plus thru his Glock ... and yet the barrel looks in remarkably good shape!

I think extended high temperatures will produce degredation but most of all ... will be throat erosion, as a precursor to significant loss of rifling in the rest of the bore.

I am amazed what my AK ''puts up with'' LOL :p
 
Full automatic fire is the easiest way to "burn-out" a barrel. Most of us don't have an automatic so this really isn't an issue.

I know someone who wore out his .50. He used steel bullets that were ground on his machinery. While they were very accurate (he was the champion .50 cal shooter at one point), when his barrel went, he was too cheap to replace it. Never figured out why he didn't increase the diameter of his bullets. His grinders could have made them a wee bit bigger and everything would have been OK (except that it would be .50 anymore).
 
I agree with 4 v 50 Gary. A full automatic rate of fire could damage a barrel. Here's an example:

"The M60E3 7.62mm machine gun is a lightweight, air-cooled, disintegrating metallic link-belt fed, portable or tripod mounted machine gun designed for ground operations like its predecessor, the M60. It is gas operated with fixed headspace and timing which permits rapid changing of barrels. (Associated components: mount, tripod, machine gun, 7.62mm, M122). Slightly different from its "parent," the M60, the M60E3 has a receiver-attached bipod which easily deploys for stability. It has an ambidextrous safety, universal sling attachments, a carrying handle on the barrel, and a simplified gas system that does not require safety wire to prevent loosening. However, the light weight barrel is not safe for overhead fire and is not capable of sustaining a rapid rate of fire of 200 rounds per minute without catastrophic failure of the barrel." - http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m60e3.htm
 
Also, I'd like to say that the definition of 'shot out' depends on the application. If you're a PA deer hunter who shoots his deer rifle a lot, you most likely won't shoot out the barrel because the difference won't be enough to affect you. You'll hardly even notice.

On the other hand, if you're a 1000 yard competitive shooter, THEY shoot out barrels fairly regularly. Just because the tolerances have to be that much better. I know competitive shooters that say that most guys would be extremely happy with the groups they are getting from the barrels they considered 'shot out.'
 
One of the best IDPA shooters at one club says he has 30k plus thru his Glock ... and yet the barrel looks in remarkably good shape!
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I'll bet you he's worn his lands and grooves all smooth. :scrutiny:




;)
 
My dad gave me a 1903 Springfield he had sporterized in the 50's It had the original barrel from about 1907 (low serial number, just barely into the double heat treat numbers). The barrel had been turned down and shortened. It would never shoot for me,

I looked throught breech end a couple years ago and it appeared the first 6 or 7 inches were smoothbore. Dad has handloaded since the '50s when he could buy 50 lbs of 4831 for $25.

The rifle now wears a brand new, 26" stainless barrel in .270 Ackley Improved. :cool:
 
I guess I should have included a pic.
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The stock is bird's eye maple. The blank came from Herter's.
 
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