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Have you ever found a model gun that makes your other guns seem irrelevant?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by 460Shooter, Oct 25, 2019.

  1. 460Shooter

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    G42 made my Kahr P380 go away
     
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  3. John Joseph

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    I sure have!
    But none of 'ems on the CA-DOJ "roster"
     
  4. Nature Boy

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    These

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    This is all I need. This is all I need. This is all I need. This is all I need.......
     
  5. Mosin Bubba

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    I have yet to find the "meister gun" that would make all my other pistols obsolete, but a Baby Eagle in 45 (basically a CZ clone) is the last auto I'd sell.

    But even then, it doesn't have as nice of a trigger as a 1911, or the lighter weight of a Glock 17, and doesn't blow up water jugs nearly as well as a Desert Eagle in 44 Mag...
     
  6. Trunk Monkey

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    This is the one gun that makes all the others irrelevant

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    Yes, I have found that Glocks and most other polystrikers are pretty irrelevant.
     
  8. tarosean

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    If anyone remembers what Samuel L. Jackson's wallet's name was in Pulp Fiction. It would be this gun.. :evil:
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    Wow! Gizmos!
     
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    I have traditional bolt action rifles and a Blaser R8 with a couple of barrels and a couple of scopes.
    I love my traditional bolt action rifles but the engineering and design of the Blaser is amazing.
    My old bolt guns compared to the Blaser are outdated relics and, to me, are like vacuum tubes as compared to transistors.
     
  11. tipoc

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    I can see that. I'd like to have one. But at 3-4 grand I'll have to wait some.
     
  12. Trey Veston

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    No, but I don't mind.

    I enjoy the hunt and the research and the endless internal debate on what I NEED for a carry pistol. I enjoy watching videos on various carry guns and weighing all of their pros and cons. I enjoy going on various gun forums and reading threads on a particular pistol I'm interested in.

    The struggle to find a pistol that balances the constraints of size, capacity, accuracy, ballistics, and price along with reliability and ergonomics is a never-ending battle.

    I now have it down to two primary carry pistols; the Glock G19 Gen 5 MOS and S&W M&P40c 1.0. I have holsters for both and carry both interchangeably depending on my mood, day of the week, humidity, whatever...

    I thought the S&W would be my grail gun. It's the perfect size, capacity, has a safety, is reliable, fits well, looks good, and cheap enough that I bought a backup. But... It just isn't as accurate at the G19 nor feel quite as perfect. But, it is a bit smaller, and I prefer the .40 S&W to the 9mm... The Glock has a $.25 trigger job and is very nice at 4.5 lbs. The M&P has an Apex sear and polish job and is around 4 lbs. Just a tiny bit better. In CQB drills, I am equally good with either. at 25yd bench rest shooting, the Glock will do just over an inch 5-shot groups and the S&W struggles to get 2" groups.

    Just too close to call...

    I am envious of those who have found their grail gun, though.

    If Glock ever releases a Gen 5 G23, I will probably buy one. But that new SA Hellcat looks good, too...

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    Ammo is no problem at all !! I've been shooting 38 supers in mine for years. The Star Super is capable of handling any 9mm load. Supers were also made in 9X19. 9X19+P is loaded to 38,000 PSI. Standard 9X19 comes in at 35,000 PSI. The Super is in the middle at 36,500. Now, I don't know what the Largo is loaded to, pressure wise, but it is irrelevant. Your gun can handle the super round with no problems. L.M. Antaris mentions this in his book "Star Firearms"

    Ahhhh....but that pesky semi-rim! Easiest thing in the world to remove. All you need is a small hand drill and a file. Chuck the super round in the drill until only the rim is protruding plus a tiny bit of extra. hand tight is fine, no need to use the chuck key. Now run the drill as slow as you can and use the file to shave off the rim. The best way to do this is to clamp the file in a vise and gently hold the case against the file. It doesn't take much. You're only taking off ten thousandths .Once this is done you have a loaded round that is identical to a 9mm largo in every dimension. And the Shooter can't tell the difference. I won a hundred bucks once by mixing Largo's and Supers in the magazine. The first, third, and fifth rounds were supers, the rest largo's. My friend said he could tell the difference.

    He couldn't.
     
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    Too bad none of those are a Z-40. ;)
     
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    I started carrying a CZ 75D PCR this summer and quickly forgot about my other CCWs. It's not the smallest pistol, nor the lightest, but it's my most accurate 9mm and fits me better than anything else.
     
  16. Bill460

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    As far as handguns, these make the rest look irrelevant.

    Magnum Research BFR In .45-70 & .500 S&W Magnum

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    For shotguns these 2 pretty much cover Trap and social work.

    Remington Police Marine Magnum (Order # 25047) & Browning Citori Grade VI Trap

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  17. Ignition Override

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    Only to a limited extent.
    This first VZ --the actual Czech VZ-58 (striker-fired, *milled, short stroke piston)-- is a much more precise design than the basic imported AKs: MAK 90, AMD-65 (TGI), Maadi, SAR-1 etc

    But imported AKs certainly have character, ruggedness and possibly attractive wood.
    And continued shooting with guns which seem somewhat less appealing certainly means less wear in those which are viewed as superior.
    Living 11-12 minutes from the private shooting club (and being retired) makes this option a very realistic factor.
     
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  18. 94045

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    CCW wise I could see where the Hellcat could displace all the the others. Small enough you don't need the .380 and large enough you don't need the G19.
     
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    IMG_20190829_151027.jpg Keep all your "Nice Guns" you have now, (oiled up in the safe).
    Keep your new TSO out by your range bag. You'll be using IT A LOT!
    Just my experience. :cool:
     
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  20. Koroner

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    I love all 6 of my CZs, but they don't make others irrelevant.

    I rarely lose at the dueling tree with my 20 shot 9mm CZ .

    But I also love my Les Baer Thunder Ranch. In fact I bought a second one and keep it new-in-box as what I like to refer to as "a complete set of spare parts" (which has proven unnecessary in a quarter century).

    I have a Sharpes .45-70 with a 25 pound 34" barrel but it doesn't make my Pedersoli Quigley irrelevant because I can actually carry the Quigley in the field. Perhaps I just don't understand the OP.
     
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    I don't know about literally "irrelevant" relative to all of my pistols but backing into an unfired Kimber Pro Aegis II, mid-size 9mm put one hell of a dent in both ends of my carry spectrum.

    Light & small enough to make me think twice about my *pocket* guns and enough gun to queer my long-term open carry Kimber .45 full size.

    Add to that, stupendously accurate, boringly reliable and bringing along with it the finest factory 1911 trigger i think I've owned.

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  22. Ignition Override

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    460Shooter: I've not scanned all of these pages, but....

    which model CZ do you have? A young doctor (geriatric medicine) I know in downtown Memphis has tried every modern striker-fired handgun and
    found the CZ P10c to be his favorite, and is his carry gun.

    * By the way, he still has a Bullet in a Leg Bone from a terrifying personal "attempted gun deal" last summer--in downtown Memphis--and wanted to find the very best handgun (best: out of the box) for his needs.
     
  23. I6turbo

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    I've done it, and I'm completely happy about it. As someone noted, it's known as CZitis. I bought my first CZ (a rimfire rifle) almost 8 years ago and was instantly hooked. I now have 6 CZ handguns and 2 Kadet kits. Semi-automatic handgun wise, I've since sold my Kimber 1911 that I previously thought I liked quite a bit, sold my pristine 1984 model Beretta 92SB that I bought new, and H&K P2000 (that I never cared for in the slightest) and haven't missed them for a single second. I've looked, but haven't found any semi-automatic centerfire handgun that I want to own other than maybe a couple more CZs. I do also have a MK III Browning Hi Power that I have no plans to sell.

    Rifle wise, I've acquired 21 additional BRNO and CZ rifles (a mix of centerfire and rimfire) since that first one. I know several people on other boards that have a LOT more than I do, some accumulated in half the time or less than it's taken me. It's called CZitis, and you probably don't have it yet if you've owned your 1st CZ for more than 6 months and don't yet have a 2nd one. :)
     
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  24. 460Shooter

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    I have a CZ Shadow 2.

    My HK VP9 covers me for a full size striker gun.
     
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  25. 460Shooter

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    Oh I have CZitus for sure. Unfortunately I also came down with a bad case of no-cash-atall syndrome. The symptoms are stronger with the later disease. I’m hoping for treatment in the next few months.
     
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