Have you ever had an ND?

Have you ever had an ND?

  • Yes

    Votes: 79 35.6%
  • No

    Votes: 143 64.4%

  • Total voters
    222
  • Poll closed .
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I was trying to fully seat a percussion cap on my 1860 replica and my thumb slipped off the hammer. Almost shot the AC unit outside the basement door.


I've not had an ND and expect not to... The safety rules are there to follow, so I follow 'em. Safety check, finger out of trigger guard, muzzle away from every one, etc.
Yep, that's what everyone thinks.....before it happens. Do enough shooting and eventually it WILL happen.
 
When I worked driving a hilo, I was told, "There's only 2 kinds of people that drive hilo in area 1, those that have dropped 6 ft racks and those that are going to." Wrong, there are now 3 kinds, including those that never dropped a rack. I hope I can continue to be so successful, but at something so much more important.
 
Seriously, 29 of 45 have had a ND? That's way higher than I would have expected. I personally don't know anyone that has had a ND.
 
I cocked my Judge before I had it pointed at the target and it went off. That trigger is pretty light with the hammer back! But it was at the range and hit the ground, so I guess it doesn't count.

It doesn't count? It went off before you had it on target because you pulled the trigger. Guns generally fire when the trigger is pulled.
 
Seriously, 29 of 45 have had a ND? That's way higher than I would have expected. I personally don't know anyone that has had a ND.
I'm sure the numbers are skewed... probably a high percentage of those who have had a ND responded but not that many who haven't.
 
Seriously, 29 of 45 have had a ND? That's way higher than I would have expected. I personally don't know anyone that has had a ND.

go to a public shooting range and watch for folks to let a round go waaaaay before they intend to. happens a lot. don't believe that?--just count the number of holes in the ceiling :what:. more importantly, there's no reason to think that bad gun handling habits like that would merely be left on the firing line.
 
Seriously, 29 of 45 have had a ND? That's way higher than I would have expected. I personally don't know anyone that has had a ND.
Actually, I suspect that there are quite a few who have but will not admit it. And others will find a way to "rationalize" theirs and make it a non-occurence.

I have never taken a poll of my friends and contemporaries (~55 y.o. men who have been shooting >30 years.)

Mine was almost 30 years ago, but I never faced up and 'fessed up to mine until recently. It's certainly not something I'm proud of.

But I thank God for the internet--these days any new shooter can read of and learn from the mistakes of many of us who never had any formal instruction, and who never heard of "Four Rules" until ten years ago.
 
Not to make folly of this but... firearms are tools like any other. We make mistakes with tools. How many of us have hit our thumbs with a hammer? And we'd NEVER do that intentionally, would we? Especially not more than once in a lifetime. I'm not saying we should treat a firearm with the same care as a hammer. I'm just saying thumbs get hammered.
 
Not to make folly of this but... firearms are tools like any other. We make mistakes with tools. How many of us have hit our thumbs with a hammer? And we'd NEVER do that intentionally, would we? Especially not more than once in a lifetime. I'm not saying we should treat a firearm with the same care as a hammer. I'm just saying thumbs get hammered.

this is such a great point. ND's are a function of time and exposure--the older you are and the more you practice, the more likely you are to have had one.

the good news is that the canonical gun safety rules are there so that when we DO make that mistake with a gun, we have three levels of redundant safeguards there to mitigate the consequences.
 
Seriously, 29 of 45 have had a ND? That's way higher than I would have expected. I personally don't know anyone that has had a ND.


Maybe you don't. And maybe you just don't know anybody that has owned up to having one.
I figured it would be about 50/50 myself. And as has already been said, it's probably a little higher than usual because people who have had them are responding more. I know I will share mine with anyone in the hopes that it may make someone think about what not to do. I was lucky once. You may not be.
 
I feel like I've jinxed myself by answering no to this poll. Not that I'm superstitious or anything... I've been very lucky since I've been handling guns. I was saved by a thumb safety though once when I grabbed for a falling gun.
 
Been shooting lots of stuff in my last 50 years of shooting, starting with my dad's .45 ACP, bb guns, pellet guns, etc. Moved to the Army, shot .45ACP pistols, M3A1 grease guns, and 105mm main tank guns. Then carried for the U.S. Government Law Enforcement Officer, (U.S. Border Patrol, INS Criminal Investigator, then DHS and became an ICE Senior Special Agent. In 38 years I can honestly say that I have never had an AD. May have one tomorrow, but thank God not yet.
 
I haven't had one so far but I'm young so you could say its lack of experience. I do try and always follow all the gun safety rules but of course everyone has moments of pure stupidity.

As a side note I have had an approximately 20 round AD with an M-249 when the sear broke.
 
I finally had one a few months ago. It was completely my fault, no way to rationalize how i wasn't doing anything wrong to make it happen. Only providing details so maybe another will learn from my mistake without having to make it themselves.

It was the day I got my new Ruger LC9. Instead of making up some dummy rounds and loading a magazine with them and leaving the loaded magazine somewhere else, I was dry firing it in my living room. They have a magazine safety so I was ejecting the magazine, cocking it, re inserting the magazine, the dry firing. Needless to say eventually I didn't drop the magazine. KaBoom scared me half to death, but since I was aiming at my old particle board desk with boxes of book under it just in case I ever did have an accident noone was hurt. I got a good embarrassment out of it and my gf and best friend got a good laugh out of it.
 
I'm sure the numbers are skewed... probably a high percentage of those who have had a ND responded but not that many who haven't.
And some may have voted no because they considered it an "accidental" discharge.

Until I read this thread I thought I had experienced an ND, but it didn't count.
 
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