Have You Known Many Colt Haters?

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  1. Old Dog

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    Better to do a few things very well than a lot of things in a mediocre fashion. (Like InNOut Burger principle) Some of the stuff leaving the S&W plant over the past few years has been excrement.

    I really think the new management is doing some cool things. Not only bringing back the snake guns, but upgrading the 1911 offerings. Now if only the Custom Shop gets back to normal operations...
     
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  2. Paul7

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    That's like saying the best restaurants are the ones with the biggest menus.

    But it means you do appreciate history, so not sure why you don't appreciate Colt more.
     
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  3. mcb

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    Its less about history and more about liking double action top break revolvers, and there are vanishingly few modern double action troop break revolvers.

    As stated in my very first post in this thread I don't like Colt double action revolvers because the cylinder release goes the wrong way. I am also not particular interesting in single action revolver of any brand/vintage.
     
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    I was never aware a cylinder release could go a right way or a wrong way? :) Shooting both S&W and Colt revolvers I never really gave it much if any thought. So how does a Ruger Redhawk for example figure into things in keeping with double action revolvers?

    Ron
     
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  5. mcb

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    In my experience, for doing speed reloads in a USPSA/IDPA type setting Ruger double action revolvers are significantly better than a Colt and not quite as good as a S&W. Especially a S&W with an oversize cylinder release purpose built for the sport. I don't believe anyone is currently making a competition cylinder release for a Ruger or a Colt. That said with the new Super GP100, 8-shot 357/38 or 9mm I think we will see an extended release for that revolver as it is competitive and appear to have made in roads into USPSA revolver division. I have seen a few custom made ones but no commercial ones yet.
     
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    BOOM!
     
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    I can run with that. :) I wonder if someone will come up with a better design for speed loading on a commercial addon. If there is enough demand and market someone should. I can also see where it is much easier and faster to push than pull.

    Ron
     
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    It depends on which hand you use. Right handed its easier to push with the shooting hand thumb. Left handed it’s faster to pull with the shooting hand index (trigger) finger. I use both hands interchangeable which is why the release is a nonissue for me. Some folks just can’t shoot with their weak eye hand and/or can’t break training and switch hands. For a right handed shooter flipping the muzzle up to pull down on the release takes practice. For a lefty the push release is the most difficult to learn because it requires taking a very precarious grip on the revolver. Try it some times using your off hand and you’ll see what I mean.
     
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    I can just run it through my mind and it would be a train wreck for me. :)

    Ron
     
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    I can't believe that Colt, short sighted as they were 140yrs ago when they designed their DA's before S&W, did not have the intellect to realize that over a century later, 'some' folks would want to run their guns fast while shooting at plates and find their cylinder release "backwards". Yet no mention of Dan Wesson.

    Let's be honest, this is just an excuse for those who would never have looked at Colt anyway. :confused:
     
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    If it was about speed reloading, Colt would have designed a gun with some means of replacing the full load with one push of a button. Some kind of box already loaded -maybe with a spring mechanism of sorts. But that’s just crazy talk right there.
     
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    Yes, they should have foreseen the wants of .0004% of shooters 140 years in the future.

    /Sarcasm off

    That they get sold means Colts are worth what they are charging to the marketplace as a whole.

    It's called Sour Grapes.
     
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    I spent 8 years of my life in the 1970s in law enforcement when revolver toting officers shunned semi-autos for their perceived unreliability. Most officers I knew carried the Smith and Wesson model 19 and quite literally worshipped it. But, in my academy class, the top three shooters shot Colts: two Trooper Mk IIIs and (God forbid) an Official Police.

    I want any product that I buy to fill the need for which I purchased it. I own a Smith and Wesson revolver, but I also want a Colt. Each company made great ones and also junk ones.
     
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    That pretty much covers it. :) Ford is better than GMC is better than Chrysler ......

    Ron
     
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    Colt haters. Hmmmmm

    I've never known anyone who hated Colt guns, but I've know several who weren't particularly fond of Colt, the companies in their many iterations.
     
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    All of my Colts have went up in value. You can count on Colt making a subtle change to a run of a gun, whether it be a change in rollmark or whatever, or cease making them altogether, making them then more collectible. Colt knows how to market guns better than any other IMO. I called it years ago (and most of you probably did too) that they would bring the Python back, and I even said they would run at $1,750.00 -$2,000.00 I called that too. I can't wait for their next run of 10mm Delta Elite in bright mirror finished stainless for $1,999.99. Yeah, they are gimicky (being brutally honest) but something about that Rampant Horse rollmark has me coming back for more every single time.
    As far as Quality and fit and finish:
    The new Colt King Cobras are by far the best trigger and overall feel of revolver ive ever handled that is under $1,000.00. Will be buying one soon.
    My Mark IV series 70 model "o" is the best 1911 out of the box ive ever fired in terms of fit, finish and accuracy....bought new in 2016 for $899.00 now selling for $1,400.00.
    ...I'll always remember my "ABC's".
     
  17. Bottom Gun

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    I never had any Colt revolvers because S&W revolvers fit my hand better but I have owned a number of Colt 1911s.

    My disenchantment with Colt started when I sent my Ace to them for repair. The slide stop was deforming the hold open notch in the slide until it became so deformed, the slide wouldn’t lock back any longer. Colt had it three months before returning it to me. The problem was still there.
    I returned my Ace to Colt to let them try again. They kept it another three months and returned it to me in the same faulty condition.
    I sent it back to Colt for a third time. Again, it was three months before I saw it again. I thought surely they would have repaired it this time but no such luck. They could not or would not fix it.
    I gave up at this point and sold the pistol for parts.

    It was then that I decided to try a Kimber. I was very pleased with the quality and accuracy. It was much nicer and shot better than any of my Colts. So I bought another Kimber and started considering other brands as well.
    Eventually, my Colts all went away and I don’t miss any of them.

    I don’t consider myself to be a Colt hater but I do consider them to be overpriced for the quality delivered.
     
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  18. Roknstevo

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    10-4 to that! I owned a ‘71 MGB for many years, and it did sling some oil. My favorite idiosincracy were the two 6 volt batteries in series to power the 12 volt system....however, I absolutely loved it every day that I owned it. Wish I still had it..just a little aside.
     
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