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  1. Monkeyleg

    Monkeyleg Member.

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    The Kimber Tactical models have laminate grip panels that have pretty subtle light and dark lines going through them. I'm trying to find the laminate, or something really close. Kimber's customer service can't seem to find out where they get their grips from.

    Have you seen this laminate, or something like it?

    Thanks for any replies.

    Tactical_Pro_II_A.large.jpg
     
  2. rcmodel

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    I think you're right about it being Dymondwood, rcmodel. After I read your post I did some searching and found Dymondwood in charcoal & silver that has the striping pattern that's in those Kimber grips.

    Now, if I can just find it thin enough to be checkered (dimpled).
     
  4. Old Fuff

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    I think those stocks were likely made by:

    Altamont Company
    901 North Church St.
    Thomasboro, IL 61878
    (800) 626-5774

    In the past they've been picked to do custom work for some of the better known firearms companies, including but not limited to: Colt, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, DetonicsUSA, and I believe Kimber.
     
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    Raasco makes Dymondwood grips in a ton of colors. These are close, but remember the grain will be unique on each pair of stocks. Some will have more, some less, so they may not be exactly like you want.

    http://raascogrips.com/fd054.html
     
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    Thanks for the replies. I'm going to have to find out how thin they can make the laminate while still being able to checker it.
     
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    The grips that came on my Kimber Eclipse Pro II look a lot like that, without the engraving.
    I bought a spare set because I cracked the original set with a poorly-thought-out handload (sometimes known as a double charge). :(.
    About $55 from Kimber.
     
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    @Orionengnr Lol after I saw your post I checked those are indeed "Stock" grips for the kimber Tactical Pro II.
     
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    Try VZ Grips - they make a number in Black Desert Sand and Black Grey. The effects are different depending on the grip texture pattern. The Black Grey is about the closest to the photo you posted.
     
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    Thanks again.

    The question is whether any of these places can/would make a sheet of the laminate about 1/16" to 3/32" thick, with dimpled checkering. I wish I could just take some factory grips and flatten them, but it doesn't work that way. ;)
     
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    No they can't.

    All of the laminates like that are made in 4'x8' sheets just like plywood.

    The grip makers have to saw it down and make grips out of it.

    rc
     
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    Oh, well. It seemed like a good idea. Thanks for letting me know.
     
  13. jeepnik

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    Laminate is plywood. They just give a fancy name to convince folks they aren't getting cheap materials at a rediculously high price.
     
  14. Monkeyleg

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    Laminate is also the term used for the material that has the pattern and color. For example, Formica is a laminate.

    I thought maybe these places would have laminate about as thick as Formica, but which could be dimpled or checkered.
     
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    Yes, formica is a laminate, but so is damascus steel. However, were were talking wood. There was a time that using plywood on a firearm was a war time expedient. Now, to save money, firearm manufacturers are hyping "laminate" stocks, and charging more for them. I know some like the look, but to me, I just see a manufacturer that doesn't think enough of their product to put decent wood on it.

    Other's likely won't agree, but that's my opinion.
     
  17. SharkHat

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    Yes, plywood is a laminate. That doesn't mean that all wood based laminates are plywood.
     
  18. jeepnik

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    They may give it a fancy name, but layers of wood (no matter what kind) stuck together to form a single piece is plywood. And what you've said is exactly what the gun makers want you to buy into.

    Now I'm not saying plywood doesn't appeal to some folks, I'm just not one of them. I'd much rather see a nice solid piece of wood on a firearm than laminate/plywood.

    Now there are places for laminates. I've bought custom knives from a fellow, God rest his soul, that used laminated micarta of different colors for the scales. He'd etch it to different depths and have a pretty cool multi colored faux scrimshaw.
     
  19. SharkHat

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    Not sure what you have against laminates, or how exactly you think I'm buying into something.

    The cheap plywood that you're obviously biased against is typically made from softwoods. The term plywood originates from the fact that the grain is rotated 90 degrees for each successive layer of the veneer. I agree that typical softwood plywood is not what I would want for knife scales or replacement grips.
     
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    Anyone who equates Dymonwood with plywood has never used Dymonwood to make knife scales or pistol grips.

    Or bow handles, benchrest rifle stocks, or any number of other things that demand high strength, no possibility of warpage, and "lasts forever" toughness.

    Not to mention very attractive grain patterns & contrast you cannot obtain from any other material.

    Homemade knife set.
    Knife8.jpg
    PiggunackSet4.jpg

    rc
     
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