Hawaii first for federal RAP-BACK

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parmaui

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Starting in December, Hawaii is the first and only one to have the federal database added
cost is 45 dollars for supposedly a one time charge.
 
supposedly a one time charge

Heard that before:uhoh::scrutiny:
Seems somebody in our government needs a dictionary:thumbdown:

For those not familiar:



As part of the FBI’s Next Generation Identification Program, the agency is implementing what it calls the “Rap Back” service. “Rap Back” provides law enforcement agencies – at their request – ongoing alerts on specific individuals. Once a person is entered into the system, the requesting agency is alerted whenever a new record is entered into an FBI database for that person. Such records include criminal arrests, warrants, convictions, and, in certain cases, the outcomes of civil proceedings. The primary intended use of “Rap Back” appears to be for persons on probation, those who are the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation, or for others in highly sensitive positions, such as those with security clearances. A new bill in Hawaii, however, would require all lawful gun owners in the state to be entered into the system. This is clearly not the intended purpose of the new system.

The Hawaii bill, SB 2954, would require local law enforcement to request a “Rap Back” on every person who applies for a firearm license or registers a firearm. In Hawaii, firearm registration is required for anyone who brings a firearm into the state, no matter how short the duration of their stay. In addition to creating a de facto gun registry of all legal firearms in the state, the bill would require that “Rap Backs” are requested on every hunter and competitive shooter who travels to Hawaii simply because they brought a firearm into the state – even if for only a single day. The bill also contains no limits on the duration of the “Rap Back” requests, so even if a person sells their firearms or leaves the state, their names would continue to be in the system and Hawaii law enforcement would receive updates whenever a new record is entered into FBI’s database. In short, once gun owners are in the system, they are in forever.

This de facto registry conflicts with the intent of several provisions in federal law that are aimed at preventing the establishment of a federal firearm registry. And, while Hawaii is the first state to consider implementing “Rap Back” firearm owners, FBI has clearly contemplated widespread use of the “Rap Back” service for this purpose as FBI’s own Rap Back Services Form lists “firearms” as one of the limited categories for which a “Rap Back” can be requested.

NRA has long fought to protect the privacy of lawful gun owners and to prohibit the establishment of a federal gun registry. We are already hard at work to ensure that the “Rap Back” Service and anything like it cannot be used as a backdoor federal firearm registry or a mechanism to monitor law-abiding gun owners, but we need your help. Please contact Governor David Ige and urge him to veto SB 2954 and contact your federal representatives to let them know that you oppose the creation of a federal gun registry.
 
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The bill as passed, and its law now.. As many of you know Hawaii has one of the strictest gun regulations in the USA..
And NO Concealed Carry though its up to the police chiefs to issue.. but they don't
 
the latest .. a politico has introduced a bill that would require ALL gun owners
to carry liability insurance (add 300 bucks to gun purchases)
 
the latest .. a politico has introduced a bill that would require ALL gun owners
to carry liability insurance (add 300 bucks to gun purchases)

In Hawaii only or across the country? I thought the Supreme Court already decided that carrying insurance as a requirement for gun ownership was to much of a burden and ruled against it.

Nope. I can't find anything concerning a court case at the Federal level prohibiting required liability insurance for gun owners. :cuss:
 
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The purpose of this is confiscation.

You have a freedom they want to outlaw, but because they are part of the US they cannot. So instead you are going to be treated as a criminal that has yet to get caught, so once you are caught they can confiscate your guns.

The problem is starting from that mindset they already want you convicted of something, anything, even something minor. It's a backdoor method of disarmament. Prepping you for disarmament so the moment they can do something without getting into trouble they will.

CA has their own state version of this.
 
I have a cousin stationed there. Though the pictures the beach and jungle are nice, the correspondence and pictures of Honolulu have ruined Hawaii in my minds eye. I'm positive that it is still "Hawaii" in some places. But unfortunately, all Brian gets to see is akin to LosAngles.:barf: It suprises me not that they are afraid or firearms. I just wish they were as afraid of methheads and gangmembers (who have guns) as they are of me and my seventeen and a half pound ,five foot tall, single shot. (Tennesee in April beats out Hawaii anytime of the year. No plane.)
Joseph
 
Is this some sort of historical extension of the island plantation owners attempting to keep the workers down? Hawaii has a history of the wealthy attempting to keep control and subjugate everyone else. If you study it's birth, it was the wealthy who staged a coup and stole the islands from the established and recognized monarchy.

Ironically, many of the ruling class families originally came there as missionaries.
 
How can they put someone into a system like that without at least an ongoing investigation? Why , on a federal level, would someone allow this? Adding to a system that is already mired in tons of information is just going to create confusion and frustration among the masses.
 
Ah yes Tennesee is a nice place, have friends in Johnson City ....
 
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