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  1. 94045

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    I went to the range today. I had an extremely bad day..My visual acuity is worse than normal and I can't grip the gun with any firmness or even slowly squeeze the trigger without starting to shake.

    LCP at 7 Yards - Last Week
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    Today I had shots in the 7 Ring.
    Any time I tried to grip the gun firmly or slowly squeeze the trigger I had escalating shaking. My groups were just as bad at 10 yards (P365) and 15 yards (M2.0 Compact 4" .40). Rapid fire groups were actually better than slow fire (although I'm glad I don't know how bad the split times were).

    I gave up and went home in less than 100 rounds.

    Caffeine - (1) 12 oz of coffee several hours before the range.

    Food - Small breakfast several hours before the range.

    I have a Doctor's Appt Friday.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    Not trying to be a wise guy - really, but I'd keep that doctors appointment if I were you. And tell the doctor what you're experiencing of course.
    I hope everything turns out alright.:)
     
  3. Old Shooter

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    Blood pressure, maybe blood sugar problem, upset or nervous about something, maybe nothing to worry about. Still a good idea to discuss this episode with your doctor.

    Sometimes I will have a similar day at the range and I just chalk it up to a bad day.
     
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  4. Pat Riot
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    Definitely see your doctor. I truly hope it’s nothing serious.
     
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    dehydration.

    murf
     
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    Of course follow your doctor's advice, sounds like it might be the big A.
    My Dr. recommended RICE therepy.
    R rest. OK I can do that!
    I ice. gel cold packs, my least favorite treatment.
    C compression. I use soft elastic tape on my wrist and base of thumb. Doesn't stiffen or support the wrist, you barely feel it, it just gives gentle compression which reduces pain. My Dr also gave me an excellent set of soft splints that compress and rest the hands. I wear them to bed, hands feel better in the morning.
    E elevation. More effective than you might think. While sitting and watching the idiot box, cross your arms over your chest, hands above the heart for 20 minutes, you'll feel relief and swelling will be reduced.

    Eat steak, not pasta.

    Ask your Dr about a set of splints. You don't find the good ones at Walgreen's.
     
  7. URIT

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    I hope everything turns out okay and it was just a bad day for you.
    As mentioned by others, low blood sugar and hydration are important. A stop at my local Wendy's for a Jr. Cheeseburger Deluxe on the way to the range is a part of my Range Day preparation. I found that the burger keeps the shakes away without overstimulating. I always stay hydrated throughout the day after living in Arizona for a few years and pack a bottle of water in my range bag.
     
  8. 94045

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    I think I had a blood sugar issue.

    It was 50 four hours after I ate.

    Tests for Postprandial Hypoglycemia and Diabetes Friday.
     
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    Your not taking cold medicine are you. If you are your fighting a loosing battle.
    How much do you shoot at the indoor range? Are you shooting lead bullets?
    Might want to have the lead levels checked in your blood.
     
  10. Pat Riot
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    54 hours?!
    Is this a misprint? This could explain a lot. :D
     
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    im pretty sure he meant his blood sugar was 50, after four hours, post meal.
     
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    That would make most people shake!
     
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    That's really low. A lot of people would be passed out. Definitely keep your appointment and let a doctor diagnose your condition.
     
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    that defiantly sounds like a blood sugar issue. I have issues with low blood sugar. It can definitely cause the symptoms you are describing.
     
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    That makes sense...now that I read it again. Thank you.
     
  16. Milt1

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    Go to your Dr as soon as you can as you could be experiencing a mini-stroke. I think we've all had range days where the pistol just didn't feel as comfortable accompanied by a feeling of being more nervous than normal. I know on those days that I'm just not going to shoot as well. On the other hand there are days where one is totally relaxed and shoot very good groups. On my bad days I haven't experienced the problems that you experienced!
     
  17. doubleh

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    Keep that doctor's appointment as he/she is much more qualified than any of us to diagnose your problem.
     
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    I like to drink coffee until I feel like I'm going to start a fist fight. But that's like 8 cups for me. I also believe there are four kinds of coffee. There's two bean coffee water, there's all day coffee, there's regular coffee, and then there's wake up juice. I make wake up juice, so my caffeine tolerance is really high. I typically do it on an empty stomach also, so I'm guessing my stomach lining looks like a plastic bag that's been blowing across the state of Wyoming for weeks.

    However, on a range day, I make sure to eat a sizeable breakfast to make sure my blood sugar is relatively stable, as I've experienced the shakiness myself.

    If you have any caffeine sensitivity at all, and you ate a small breakfast, I bet your blood sugar was causing it.

    Also, people who use artificial sweeteners and drink diet soda create a situation in their body where the sweetness is causing an insulin response, and with little or no calorie intake, your blood sugar plummets. Often the caffeine will help compensate, but it's not a healthy affair at all. No idea if you do either, just throwing it out there.

    I hope your doc can figure it out.
     
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    I’m going with blood sugar.
    If that’s what it is , there is no sense in trying to “tough it out “ in such a situation; you need to remedy it.
    I find that if blood sugar is running low caffeine sensitivity is heightened. The result is what I call the “sugar shakes” , generally compromises the remaining balance of the day.
     
  20. 94045

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    Fasting Blood Sugar - 60
    30 minutes after "Meal Shake" - 80
    90 minutes after meal - 42
    Changed my two BP Medications and put me on a drug for irregular heartbeat.
    I'm scheduled for a Full MMTT Tuesday with possible Pancreas Imaging a few days later depending on results.

    I thank all those who have offered suggestions and advice.
     
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    Hope you’re up to speed soon!
     
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    I don't have the shakes, well, at least not very often. Sometimes I veer towards having low sugar and I can always tell when that is happening. I eat and I'm fine. My main issues are my eyes are not great, and the worst is my shoulders, back, and neck. Shooting any kind of big bore rifle is asking for trouble, and just standing and holding a gun is painful, especially the longer I shoot Last time I shot sitting down and did about as well as I think is possible for me to do anymore.

    I don't have much trouble putting a hole in the center mass of a target, but really accurate shooting can only come when I first start, before my back starts up. Thanks for the super pancreas mom, but I wish you wouldn't have passed on the bad neck and back to me.
     
  23. Varminterror

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    It sounds like you have several compounding medical issues which could influence your ability with a pistol, and have an eye out for indicators in your day to day activities.

    Hopefully a lot of folks see this thread and take it as a reminder that mundane and familiar activities we take for granted can serve as indicators for undiagnosed medical conditions.

    An example in my own life - my uncle, father, brother, BIL, and I hunted coons over hounds together for many years. My uncle and I were most typically our “designated shooters,” with the two of us separating most often as we broke into smaller groups/pairs to walk opposite sides of a high water creek or river - one shooter per group. We noticed, but didn’t say anything, when he started asking my BIL (a terrible shot) to take the killing shots more and more often over a season. By February he wasn’t even carrying a rifle any longer. He wasn’t “old” by any stretch, just 52 yrs old, in great physical shape with a high activity job and high activity hobbies, so we thought it a bit odd he’d “pass the torch”, but we didn’t ask. By the next winter, we could only take him on a few exceptionally limited hunts where his power chair could travel, as a last wish effort together. He had started asking my BIL to shoot for him because he noticed he could no longer hold his rifle steady, and didn’t want any of us to notice. He didn’t want to admit something was happening. He was diagnosed with ALS at the start of that next hunting season, and gone by January. ALS treatments are largely untreatable, but having an extra year head start on it may have made a significant difference. If we’d have gone in when he started noticing weakness in his hand, he might have been able to watch his daughter graduate college. His son graduate high school. His daughter get married - all within the typical survival expectation for an early detection ALS patient.

    Possibly another example in my life is a reemergence of my stutter, loss of dexterity and sensitivity in my left hand, and worsening vision in my left eye in the last 6 mos. I’ve had a great number of TBI’s in my life, linked to over a decade as a professional bull rider and over 25yrs in grappling and striking sports (BJJ, Kids, HS, and College wrestling, Judo, amateur mma, kickboxing) - and a doozy of a TBI in a car wreck when a drunk driver crossed the centerline at over 100mph, which yielded a stroke later at the hospital (don’t know if it ruptured a pre-existing aneurysm or caused wholly by the wreck). I spent 3 years in speech therapy to overcome a stutter after the stroke, which has suddenly reappeared after 20 years, despite no TBI’s in the last 6yrs. I’d tracked my condition with a specialist during my bull riding career, so we’re back again now revisiting my old scans to see if I’ve slipped into neural degeneration. Super fun stuff to consider as a young-ish engineer with a wife and a 6yr old son, but getting in front of it is a lot better than ignoring symptoms until it’s too late.

    Watch yourself and watch your friends and family. If something changes, it might be worth taking note.
     
  24. doubleh

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    It's a given that something is going to get you in the end. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do all we can to postpone the end. Regular checkups, going to the doctor when a problem occurs, and following his/her recommendations goes a long way in accomplishing this. My most annoying problem at this time is intension tremors. They play hell with your dexterity. I take medication which helps but doesn't completely stop them. I can't draw anymore or do anything well that I can't steady my hands on something. Other than that I'm in pretty good health for my age. I'm hoping that continues until I just don't wake up some morning.
     
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  25. Hookeye

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    Could be health issue.
    Could be just a bad day.
    The stress of work/normal life can sometimes lead to a less than decent focus.

    I always had to work hard to shoot my bow after work.
    Yet on a Saturday i would just drill em.

    So........if everything checks out, chalk it up to a bad day and forget about it.
    Not forgetting about it will probably affect the next outing.
     
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