Heard about the new Federal .50 BMG ban bill?

[nplant]

It's called "Long-Range Sniper Rifle Safety Act of 2007." Gimme a break.

Senate Bill 1331 would try to export California's insane idea of a public hazard to the rest of the country (nothing new here). Does anyone actually, really believe that the .50 BMG is a threat to peace and prosperity in a bolt action rifle? I know, I know, preaching to the choir again.

I did a search and couldn't find this (quickly - I'm at work). Here's a link to the Library of Congress page that will give you all the info you could want. Guess who's behind the bill.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

 

[erik the bold]

Here's a link that works.......right here

 

[Bruce333]

Looks like it would affect more the just the .50 BMG.

or any other rifle developed and manufactured after the date of enactment of this paragraph, regardless of caliber, if such rifle is capable of firing a projectile that attains a muzzle energy of 12,000 foot-pounds or greater in any combination of bullet, propellant, case, or primer.'.

 

[PTK]

If passed you can expect widespread disobedience. Even among the simple folk where I live there are quite a few .50s.

 

[ABTOMAT]

Looks like it would affect more the just the .50 BMG.

I'm just curious, what other legal cartridges get up into that range? Even .700NE is a few thousand fewer foot-pounds.

 

[fletcher]

Times like this make me wish I could afford a .50. I'm not sure that it's going to pass.

 

[Black Majik]

Times like this make me wish I could afford a .50. I'm not sure that it's going to pass.

That's what us Californians said too...

 

[Juna]

My @#$@#$ senator Carl Levin is a co-sponsor! :banghead:

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Surprise surprise look who's the sponsor. Looks like Feinstein isn't happy that Barrett and others have circumvented California's asinine .50 cal ban. They are going to keep adding larger slices to the NFA DD regs until we have single shot .22's and then we'll get those taken away so we don't shoot our eye out.
I hope this "Elk-Hunting Rifle Elimination Act of 2007" doesn't make it out of introduction.

 

[fletcher]

`(36) The term `.50 BMG caliber sniper rifle' means--

`(A) a rifle capable of firing a center-fire cartridge in .50 BMG caliber,

So... any rifle that fires .50BMG is considered a sniper rifle? Feinstein - always on the cutting edge of idiocy.

Time to write the senators.

EDIT: Faxes sent.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

I'm not sure what you mean by new. It was introduced in May, read and sent to committee. It was discussed way back here: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=276520

 

[Nomad101bc]

Does she know of a better way to humanely kill large game?

 

[CountGlockula]

You can no longer buy a rifle chambered for .50 BMG, BUT what you can buy is the new .50 DTC.

 

[Cosmoline]

I'm just curious, what other legal cartridges get up into that range?

The law is so broad, it includes any "case," which means any action ABLE to be chambered in .50 BMG would be illegal. That includes virtually all 98 pattern hunting rifles. Not to mention AR's.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Does she know of a better way to humanely kill large game?

She takes their food away through legislation. It's not as humane but it doesn't frighten her.

 

[Don't Tread On Me]

Looks like the Feds have read UC.

 

[Titan6]

This is a matter of public safety. There has been literally a wave of sniping with .50 BMG in Iraq. Oh wait... never mind....

 

[Ian]

I'm just curious, what other legal cartridges get up into that range? Even .700NE is a few thousand fewer foot-pounds.

Things like 12.7x107 (the Russian DShK .50), .55 Boys, 14.5x114 (PTRD/PTRS), and a dozen or so other WWI and WWII anti-tank cartridges. Also the 20mm Vulcan, which Anzio Ironworks makes bolt and single-shot rifles in. More importantly, it would cover the things like .416 Barrett that are functionally similar to .50 BMG but slip past legislation.

Edit: Cosmoline, I think the word "case" is referring to the cartridge case, not the firearm's action or receiver.

 

[budney]

Danggit! I guess this means I have to hurry up and buy a BMG so I'll be grandfathered in...

 

[nplant]

Thanks Eric and Jorg for covering my desire to quickly share something with the community...

Mods - this one can be closed, since Jorg points out the older thread. *Sorry!*

 

[SoCalShooter]

Uhhhggg thanks for the info, looks like all Dems right now, but they need to get people on the other side of the isle to vote with them or they will not get enough votes for it. Either way I'll contact my rep.

 

[Geno]

There are many words that inadequately describe Levin, and not one of them is THR-worthy.

I see this expanding (if it ever passed) into ALL "sniper" rifles, which is precisely why it won't pass. But you can be certain that they will play on the horrors of imaginary terror-that-could-be, and all the while continuing to leave the back door of America "unlocked", wide-open and not even monitored.

Yes, there are many fine, fine words that inadequately describe Levin, and not one of them is THR-worthy.

 

[Will Learn]

They're taking the country away from us one nibble(or big bite in this case) at a time. I just wonder if we'll ever be able to take it back? Every day it seems we are closer to the tipping point. I think it's time to take out another student loan to finance a .50 project. What I'm more worried about though lately is the availability of ammo. The last thing I need is a 30lb paper weight and I'm not sure my ability to acquire a lifetime supply of .50 BMG outweighs my paranoia of not being able to get any(.50 ammo) in the future.

 

[Geno]

There are several companies that sell .50 BMG uppers for the AR15.

See www.ferret50.com

Here's another lead: http://www.50bmgstore.com/50bmgcurrentprices.htm

Edit to ask: How many .50 BMGs have been used to commit a crime in America in the past 5 years?

Doc2005

 

[wdlsguy]

Things like 12.7x107 (the Russian DShK .50), .55 Boys, 14.5x114 (PTRD/PTRS), and a dozen or so other WWI and WWII anti-tank cartridges. Also the 20mm Vulcan, which Anzio Ironworks makes bolt and single-shot rifles in.

A firearm in a military caliber over .50 is almost certainly going to be considered a "destructive device" by BATFE under the current rules.

More importantly, it would cover the things like .416 Barrett that are functionally similar to .50 BMG but slip past legislation.

Looks like the .416 Barrett runs a bit over 9,000 ft-lbs, so it would be safe for now.