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HELLLLP! {Ruger Mark 3}

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Sauer Grapes, Feb 3, 2013.

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  1. Sauer Grapes

    Sauer Grapes Member

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    I did a search, but didn't find what I need.
    To make matters worse, I'm having trouble with my computer and youtube.
    I'm trying to remove the bolt stop. I get the MSH open no problem. I can only get the pin to move untill it's flush with the top of the receiver and then it won't budge at all. It moves freely that little bit, then it feels like it's hitting something.
    So far it's been, insert mag, point it down pull trigger and swing out MSH. That is about as far as it goes. The pin seems loose for an 1\8'' of travel.

    Is there anything it can get hung up on inside?
    Looking at an exploded diagram, it seems like it should just come out. I didn't want to just start beating on the gun. I've heard they can be tight, but WTH!

    I bought it used. I shot about 100 rounds thru it. Nice gun, but it's starting to piss me off big time....lol. :banghead:
     
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  3. Sauer Grapes

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    Is the gun still pretty new? I've only had mine apart twice. The first time pulling that pin out was VERY difficult. The second time was better, but far from easy. People say it gets better each time.

    The first time around I had to resort to tapping it out fom the top. I used some sort of plastic thing I found laying around, it might have been a toothbrush, I dont remeber. Set that on top of the pin and tapped on that with something else I found laying around, a vice grip I think. Crude, but it worked.
     
  5. xjsnake

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    Drip a little oil on the top of the pin and work it back and forth for that 1/8" of travel then give it a mighty yank down and it should pop out. If it doesn't you may need to take a wooden dowel and tap it through gently. They are a beast to get apart sometimes and it would not surprise me if it's that stiff that the previous owner never disassembled it.
     
  6. dullone

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    Make sure you pulled the trigger so it's not cocked.
     
  7. bigfatdave

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    Make sure hammer is 100% forward
    Be willing to use a non-marring punch to bonk the BSP down from above

    Beyond that, it sounds like something I could troubleshoot in seconds in person, but difficult to do remotely without pictures or the ability to feel exactly where it is hanging up - the assembly pin/bolt stop pin is just tight, and can be a pain to get in/out, I eventually picked up a cheap and small dead-blow hammer for the "gun tools" kit, mostly for my Ruger target pistols, they're just tight, even after years of use and takedown/assembly.
     
  8. Sauer Grapes

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    Thanks guys. I'll keep poking at it.
    I remember cursing at my Colt Targetsman the first time I took it apart and then on the second time it pactically put its self back together.
    It's just frustrating for the sake of cleaning.
     
  9. LCPor9mm

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    MK3...Yeah I have one of those

    I was wondering what that beaten-up, half chop stick was doing in my tool box. NOW I remember!:cuss::cuss::cuss:
     
  10. commygun

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    Spent two hours (and a whole lot of salty language) reassembling my new Mk III this afternoon. Yes, YouTube is a lifesaver, the new guns are tighter than hell, a mallet and dowel are essential. And that hammer has to be aaaaaalll the way forward when you hook the bolt pin back in.
     
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    The instructions say the hammer will "fall" forward. Well, none of mine ever "fell" anywhere. I use a pencil or a screwdriver to push it into position.

    To the OP. You'll probably had to take something like a wooden or plastic dowel and tap on the mainspring pin with a rubber/leather mallet. They are tight.
     
  12. Farnorthdan

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    Too funny, If I had a dollar for every one of these &$%#$@ mark I/II/III take down issues threads I would be a millionaire. Great guns and I absolutely love mine, none finer, but I seem to also go through this every time I have to take one down. :banghead: ;)
     
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    Everytime I go to reassemble mine I watch a video about it on youtube.

    Fortunately for me, mine falls apart in about 5 seconds.
     
  14. Pilot

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    Once you do it, you should be able to do it again in a few minutes. It is very easy once you figure out the hammer/hammer strut position. FOLLOW THE MANUAL WORD FOR WORD as you are taking in apart and putting it back together.

    Ruger also made it more difficult with the MK III and the silly magazine disconnect. Take out the mag disconnect, and make life easier. (Remove the LCI while you're at it)
     
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    My MK II is STILL a bear to take apart...that pin is TIGHT!

    Buit putting a couple of drops of oil on it and let it soak for a few minutes helps.
     
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    They are tough to put back together. +1 to the mag disconnect the LCI replacement. While you have it apart, those are pretty easy tasks, and very much worth your time.

    In any event, make sure the hammer is all the way forward (use a stick to push it even if it looks like it is), and a little (not a lot) of oil on the MSH and the bolt stop will make it slightly easier. As always, read the directions very, very closely (might help to write them out in a an easy to reference way, instead of the little book).
     
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    I have had mine apart over 100 times with no issues and last Saturday I had the same issues as you are having. Lot's of fiddling and now all OK.

    Make sure you have the barrel assembly all the way on the frame. The Ruger video shows a hammer being used to make sure it is fully on. Ruger also uses a hammer to drive the MSH up into the barrel assembly.
     
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    Mine didn't until I cleaned out all around the hammer and started using a dry-lube spray. The same for the hammer strut, if it doesn't dangle freely, it will always be in the wrong spot.
     
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    I love my MKiii! Mine comes apart and goes back together in just a few easy minutes! Really it will get much easier!

    Lots of good information available online! I did a bunch of mods on mine and love it. Great fun at the range!
     
  20. PoPo22

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    I believe you can still buy the kits to change out the assembly and make future dissasembly/reassembly less of a PITA. I believe my gunsmith bought and installed it for around $100.00, it was worth it for me. Good Luck.
     
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